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Re: Google Contributor

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So this seems like an automatic version of flattr[1], except you get the perk of no adverts in return. What I wonder though is: what happens if I visit a site that I don't want to support? Can I say no? Otherwise this just invites clickbait even more. [1]: https://flattr.com/howflattrworks

Or exactly like Gratipay (formerly gittip) https://gratipay.com/

Re: Google Contributor

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post #105

I would only use this if the first time I appeared on a website it asked me whether I wanted to add it to the list of sites I wanted to explicitly support. That may seem intrusive, but otherwise this is going to (further) encourage content farms ripping off Wikipedia or just posting random material and optimising the hell out of its rankings (yes I know Google actively tries to stop this, but it just doesn't work wel…

Maybe not the first time (before you've seen any of the content), but generally, I like this idea.

Re: Google Contributor

#123

A fraction of $3/mo? From a company that abandons projects left and right? I'll stick to Patreon, thanks. I'm making about $800 on a productive month now despite there being a pretty small audience for comics about a lesbian robot with PKD problems. I set "no ads for anyone" as my goal for like $50/p, which was still making far more than I ever did from ad impressions. Most people only contribute a buck or so a page…

They just shut down google wallet. It's not clear to me that you could count on them to stick with this.

Re: Google Contributor

#124

Ideally, something like this could still contribute to the sites visited while the user has an adblocker enabled or JavaScript disabled. I would be quite happy to chip in to help sites display fewer ads, but it would be tedious to whitelist all of the participants just so they can get their contribution from my visit. In principle I am very interested in consciously supporting those who create the content I get compl…

We just launched almost exactly what you describe. It is called FairBlocker. An ad blocker with a monthly subscription fee (of your choice), which we then split up among the sites where ads are blocked. We're looking for feedback from people who get the problem - what do you think? Feel free to email me directly if you want: zack@fairblocker.com

for fuck sake, STOP FUCKING ADVERTISING your companies. We know its startup boom and everyone want to hit big and become millionaire and say fuck off.

I don't come to HN to repeatedly learn about your FUCKING STUPID companies in every reply. Go advertise somewhere else.

Re: Google Contributor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At the risk of being an unpopular opinion, advertising has been a huge boon in the growth of the Internet. I look at that more of a necessary evil, kind of like the pollution from the industrial revolution. It got us this far, but now it's time to look for sustainable ways to make use of this growth.

On the contrary. Regardless of what people SAY they want when discussing ads on forums, when faced with the choice of getting content for free with ads, or paying and not seeing ads, people vote with their mouse and choose free with ads. One might say that advertising has been a hugely POPULAR way to get awesome free services on the internet.

I don't think any normal internet user would consider ads in that way, only the lesser of two evils. People "voting with their mice" and choosing to install ad blockers isn't really a ringing endorsement.

Re: Google Contributor

#126

A fraction of $3/mo? From a company that abandons projects left and right? I'll stick to Patreon, thanks. I'm making about $800 on a productive month now despite there being a pretty small audience for comics about a lesbian robot with PKD problems. I set "no ads for anyone" as my goal for like $50/p, which was still making far more than I ever did from ad impressions. Most people only contribute a buck or so a page…

They just shut down google wallet. It's not clear to me that you could count on them to stick with this.

No they didn't. Are you confusing it with the Android Pay API?

Re: Google Contributor

#127
This is very subtle attempt to increase publishers from google ( supply side ). I work in ad-tech and inventory quality is something considered prime importance. So what google is trying to do is get publishers sign-up. Those who contribute will not see any ads and those who don't will still see ads.

Now if we get very large number of people contributing and site visit increases then both sites and google could loose revenue as they would have been better off with ads.

Its interesting experiment by google to see what alternative model to ad can be built while simultaneously increasing publisher supply. Good move. They are trying set feet on both stones.

Re: Google Contributor

#128
post #94
post #38

While a good step, personally my reasons for blocking ads rests more from a tracking standpoint than visually. Google being a middleman makes it logistically easy but removes the main reason why I would pay some amount directly to sites themselves.

Unless I'm very much mistaken, blocking ads isn't going to make a whit of difference to tracking. Unless you aggressively block cookies and javascript as well, you're up large on the radar.

Not by itself no, but you can't block tracking beacons and then leave gaping holes in the form of AdSense, so if your motive is tracking then you're not going to see most ads regardless.

Re: Google Contributor

#129

A fraction of $3/mo? From a company that abandons projects left and right? I'll stick to Patreon, thanks. I'm making about $800 on a productive month now despite there being a pretty small audience for comics about a lesbian robot with PKD problems. I set "no ads for anyone" as my goal for like $50/p, which was still making far more than I ever did from ad impressions. Most people only contribute a buck or so a page…

Exactly. This idea only needs to be moderately successful for a standalone company to stick with it. It needs to be hugely successful for Google to remain committed to it.

I'd go as far as saying Google are negligent (or malicious) for trying it. They might kill any startup doing the same thing, and then they will inevitably shut this down.

Re: Google Contributor

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They just shut down google wallet. It's not clear to me that you could count on them to stick with this.

No they didn't. Are you confusing it with the Android Pay API?

They did just shut down a specific part of Wallet:

https://support.google.com/wallet/business/answer/6107573

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