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Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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The USG controls .com, .net, and .org. The government of Libya controls .ly. DNSSEC puts cryptographic key material under the influence of the DNS. "No it doesn't" isn't a rebuttal to that.

But Thomas ... I still don't understand the attack that you say can be made against DNSSEC-signed domains. Here's what I see, if I have a .COM domain: 1. I sign my domains and generate a DS record. 2. I upload the DS record to my registrar who passes the DS record up to the .COM registry. Now, when someone does DNSSEC validation on my DNS records, they wind up doing this process: 1. Going through the DNS process to g…

Your "1. Going through the DNS process" starts with records the USG controls! Yes, "the best they could do" would be to defeat the entire system. What do you think happens in a TLS MITM? They USG isn't trying to sign your keys and publish your addresses!

This is not, of course, the only problem with DNSSEC. It's also an archaic 1990s cryptosystem built around 1024-bit PKCS1v15 RSA, which by default makes every DNS record in the system public, trivially dramatically amplifies DNS traffic, and does all this without actually securing DNS lookups from browsers, which still run the old insecure DNS protocol to talk to DNSSEC-enabled caches.

It's a silly system, has been since the USG paid TIS to design it in the 1990s, is nearing two decades delayed, and isn't going to happen. Look at what Chris Palmer from Google has to say about it. Whatever the opposite of "betting on it" is, that's what Chromium is doing with DNSSEC. We should get to work designing a modern alternative.

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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>We include 10 million resolutions per year for each domain you register with Google Domains.

Hmm, what does that mean for an average website?

100 readers * 365 days * ~273 (html+css+js+gif/png/jpg) ?

I guess some browsers cache the DNS requests too..

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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None of Google Domain's features are novel. In fact the article spent most of its time talking about an up-sell. Which isn't to say Google Domain isn't a good product, just that we now should look at price because nothing else seems interesting... ~ Google Domains charges $12/year for .COM, .NET, .ORG. ~ NameCheap charges $10.69/year for .COM, $11.98/year for .NET, and $11.48/year for .ORG. Sometimes with an 18c/year…

The primary reason I use it is to have two factor authentication defending my domains. [disclosure: Google employee]

Namecheap has 2FA.

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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Yea, but their domain registion prices are high. I have always appreciated the honesty/integrity/simplicity of gandi though.

You might want to try NameSilo. Cheap, free privacy, 2FA, acceptable interface.

I second NameSilo. $8.99/domain and so far that's it - no jacking the price on renewal etc.

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Private registration usually costs extra, but not with Google domains. That is a compelling reason to me. I also like the clean interface, some of the other vendors have horrible interfaces.

What is private registration?

If you don't have private registration a whois query on the domain shows the public your name and address. If you do it shows some nominee company instead.

For example https://who.is/whois/habinow.com is one of mine that is private

while https://who.is/whois/ycombinator.com is pubic and shows Nicholas Sivo as the admin and an address and phone number for y combinator

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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None of Google Domain's features are novel. In fact the article spent most of its time talking about an up-sell. Which isn't to say Google Domain isn't a good product, just that we now should look at price because nothing else seems interesting... ~ Google Domains charges $12/year for .COM, .NET, .ORG. ~ NameCheap charges $10.69/year for .COM, $11.98/year for .NET, and $11.48/year for .ORG. Sometimes with an 18c/year…

One of the headaches of setting up a domain is getting the email sorted correctly. Instant integration to Gmail is a nice feature. If you want privacy protection on your whois lookups, then Google would be cheaper than the other providers, as they sell it as an add-on. I also trust Google to have speedy DNS servers, if you're leaving the defaults in place. GoDaddy's DNS can be quite slow. Perhaps not a "mind-blowing"…

>then Google would be cheaper than the other providers, as they sell it as an add-on

Godaddy also sells this as an addon, actually, every domain seller does, I don't know what is so special about Google's offert.

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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One of the headaches of setting up a domain is getting the email sorted correctly. Instant integration to Gmail is a nice feature. If you want privacy protection on your whois lookups, then Google would be cheaper than the other providers, as they sell it as an add-on. I also trust Google to have speedy DNS servers, if you're leaving the defaults in place. GoDaddy's DNS can be quite slow. Perhaps not a "mind-blowing"…

>then Google would be cheaper than the other providers, as they sell it as an add-on Godaddy also sells this as an addon, actually, every domain seller does, I don't know what is so special about Google's offert.

It's included with Google. Thus if it's something you use (and most people do), then Google's pricing is very competitive for domains.

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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Many people miss the point of this product: Easily buy a domain, have it automatically hooked into the Google Apps suite of products, and easily hook it up with a select number of third party vendors like Wix or Shopify. That's what this is about. The ability to create something cool, run a business, without having to worry as much about the technical bullshit. Great product, and for the ease of use it is well worth…

But it doesn't connect to Google Apps yet, does it?

Re: Google Domains Launches to All in U.S

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>We include 10 million resolutions per year for each domain you register with Google Domains. Hmm, what does that mean for an average website? 100 readers * 365 days * ~273 (html+css+js+gif/png/jpg) ? I guess some browsers cache the DNS requests too..

DNS gets cached at multiple levels (browser, OS, router, upstream DNS servers). The higher you set your TTL the longer it'll be cached.
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