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Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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Re: Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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My first real job (25 years ago... at age 15) was collecting eggs at a medium-sized commercial egg farm. Maybe I didn't care about "organic" or "cage-free" at age 15 or nobody cared 25 year ago, but we were one of those "battery cage" farms. It was long buildings with 5 rows of double stacked cages. The floor of the cage was slanted so that the eggs rolled out into a trough in the front. We'd push a narrow cart down…

How could you start again if you didn't forget?

Re: Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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They are also a great way to reduce your waste. We send all of our kitchen scraps to the chickens, and they give us eggs in return. They also keep the area under our apple tress fairly clear for us, eating all the insects that otherwise would be in our trees, and keeping the mice away. And they get to munch on any fallen apples. Works out well for the chickens and for us.

> And they get to munch on any fallen apples. Hmm, I wonder if they like lemons...

Be careful with birds and citrus. Do some googling.

Re: Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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Backyard chicken farmer here! If you have a bit of yard space and time they make wonderful pets. About as difficult to care for as cats and what they lack in cuddles they make up for in hilarious/idiotic behavior. I doubt it saves me any money, but it's fun and provides lots of "organic pasture-raised" eggs and compost.

Just don't let them near anything you don't want them to defecate on. They will defecate everywhere they go, including on expensive equipment and cars when they sneak into your garage.

It makes me really happy that you talk about chicken poop and your nick is nitrogen.

Re: Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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Just don't let them near anything you don't want them to defecate on. They will defecate everywhere they go, including on expensive equipment and cars when they sneak into your garage.

It makes me really happy that you talk about chicken poop and your nick is nitrogen.

Heheh. I do embedded and back-end development, so my nick is actually a reference to the fact that nitrogen is the most common gas in Earth's atmosphere that, like embedded firmware and back-end software, is absolutely essential and inadequately appreciated.

Re: Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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The description in "The Omnivore's Dilemma" of egg yolks from idyllically pasture-raised chickens is forever stuck in my memory. "Between stops, Art mentioned that Joel’s eggs usually gave him his foot in the door when trying to land a new account. We stopped in at one such prospect, a newly opened restaurant called the Filling Station. Art introduced himself and presented the chef with a brochure and a dozen eggs. T…

I've yet to find an egg like that, though I've heard you can get them if you raise backyard chickens. I've seen very firm yolks in the Philippines, where the farm to store time is hours, not days or weeks like in the US. Eggs aren't refrigerated there like they are here, which I found hard to accept, but it turns out that if you wash the eggs on the farm (as is required in the US), you have to refrigerate them. In th…

We discussed this issue a while back. I cannot remember the exact article, but it was along the lines of this one:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2644251/Un-scrambl...

According to this, it is an issue of salmonella:

UK eggs, for instance - which typically have more orange yolks than their American counterparts - are stored at room temperature, while those in the U.S. are required by law to be stored at lower than 45 degrees Fahrenheit in order to prevent the risk of Salmonella spreading.

British grocery stores and households do not refrigerate their eggs because 90per cent of store-bought eggs in the UK come from hens that have been vaccinated for salmonella.

edit: found it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5325540 It's been almost 2 years. That information was very sticky.

Re: Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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Re: Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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My first real job (25 years ago... at age 15) was collecting eggs at a medium-sized commercial egg farm. Maybe I didn't care about "organic" or "cage-free" at age 15 or nobody cared 25 year ago, but we were one of those "battery cage" farms. It was long buildings with 5 rows of double stacked cages. The floor of the cage was slanted so that the eggs rolled out into a trough in the front. We'd push a narrow cart down…

How could you start again if you didn't forget?

Knowing that some eggs come out bloody and birds die is one thing. Handling those bloody eggs and dead birds every weekend is an entirely different thing. I moved on from that job and after a while just knowing was not as "traumatic" and eggs/chicken was no longer repulsive to me.

Re: Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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Actually you don't need to refrigerate them in the US either. They'll keep for a few months out of the fridge. They are kept in the fridge only to keep the yolk firm and hard, it's not necessary to keep them from spoiling.

Your advice seems to contradict the FDA: http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/ucm077342.... What is the basis for your claims?

Almost every other country except the US does not refrigerate eggs.

I've personally kept US eggs unrefrigerated for 2 months with no problems - none of them were spoiled.

Refrigeration is mainly for freshness (i.e. yolk firmness). It's not necessary to prevent spoiling.

Re: Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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post #106

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Actually you don't need to refrigerate them in the US either. They'll keep for a few months out of the fridge. They are kept in the fridge only to keep the yolk firm and hard, it's not necessary to keep them from spoiling.

Based on some experience utilizing RFID tagging in the vegetable and egg packing industries to meet regulatory and supplier freshness requirements: US FDA final egg rule requires the holding and transporting of shell eggs at or below 45F ambient temperature beginning 36 hours after time of lay. At a producer of any volume, eggs are gathered 2x daily, generally by automated machinery; occasionally still gathered by ha…

Right, this is only about the freshness of the yolk. It has nothing to do with keeping the eggs from spoiling - they will not.

Re: Eggs Not Always What They're Cracked Up to Be

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It's so wonderful to now live in a forthright European country that cares for their citizens and doesn't permit this kind of fraudulent advertising of unnatural and unhealthy modifications of foods. Firms like Monsanto are barred from the country as are GMOs in general and you'd be hard-pressed to find anything other than natural eggs from free-range chickens, untreated with any hormones or antibiotics. It seems the…

"...you'd be hard-pressed to find anything other than natural eggs from free-range chickens" Which European country is that? Battery cages are banned in the EU, but caged hens are still permitted as long as the space in the cage meets EU welfare standards.

In Sweden most of the large supermarket chains have stopped selling caged eggs or limited to selling them when supply is short[0]. Less than 10% of eggs sold are from caged hens.[1]

Of course, any pre-fabricated food will still contain caged eggs since that doesn't have to be declared in the ingredients.

[0] http://www.dn.se/ekonomi/matkedjor-slutar-med-agg-fran-burho...

[1] http://www.landetsfria.se/artikel/114064

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