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Introducing Phoenix, Swift set free

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Re: Introducing Phoenix, Swift set free

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A few thoughts: - Browsing the source code directory, this is very very "early stage" at best and perhaps too early to warrant a "Get It Now" link - There is an alternative implementation of Swift for the interested, although not open source, being developed by RemObjects: http://www.remobjects.com/elements/silver/ - Apple should definitely open source Swift, but I doubt this kind of pressure is going to have any sig…

> Referring to Richard Stallman as "Richard", Steve Jobs as "Steve" and Chris Lattern as "Chris" in the letter comes off as a bit sarcastic/snippy in tone Not necessary. First names are often used for familiarity, and it is fine e.g. for celebrities. Although, I have no idea who is Chris :)

That's right for familiarity. Unless he personally knows each of them, he shouldn't assume such familiarity. At least where I'm from it's considered uncouth to do so. Of course it's a cultural thing, and perhaps where you're from it doesn't sound the same way to your ear.

Re: Introducing Phoenix, Swift set free

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post #118

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> Referring to Richard Stallman as "Richard", Steve Jobs as "Steve" and Chris Lattern as "Chris" in the letter comes off as a bit sarcastic/snippy in tone Not necessary. First names are often used for familiarity, and it is fine e.g. for celebrities. Although, I have no idea who is Chris :)

That's right for familiarity. Unless he personally knows each of them, he shouldn't assume such familiarity. At least where I'm from it's considered uncouth to do so. Of course it's a cultural thing, and perhaps where you're from it doesn't sound the same way to your ear.

I think it's more personal [opinion] thing rather than cultural. To me, "Mr. Stallman" would sound sarcastic. And don't forget that we're talking about celebrities. Another example - if you've grown up on Beatles music, you'd say Paul and Ringo rather than Mr. McCartney or Mr. Starkey, right? And I'm pretty sure Paul and Ringo prefer the former one ;)
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