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Any chance we can see scores when we're looking at our own comments section? Often when I notice a bump in my karma I look at my comment threads to see what was so popular.
Ok, now there should be scores next to your own comments. Better?
I feel kind of lost.
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You know, if there's one thing programmers should appreciate, it's making it easy to see which information you don't want to read.
A simple number next to a post doesn't necessarily tell you much about whether or not you want to read it.
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People are far enough removed from each other on the internet. Knowing who posted something tells a lot. For example, I've been browsing HN about 3 months and I already know to pay extra attention to what tptacek on security. I believe people have gotten jobs from Hacker News too based on their reputation. I think HN is a great community and implementing this would just weaken it.
"I believe people have gotten jobs from Hacker News too based on their reputation." Whoa! Nice :-). Any concrete examples?
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I also considered that a feature. I have 3 choices: -1, 0 and 1, and almost always I choose 0. I do think that people make too much of karma and comments scores. But I don't understand why pg thinks this particular aspect is an improvement.
I can see why the change is for the better: my vote (-1, 0, 1) should not be skewed/altered based on past events (others voting). Also, an "appropriate" total vote count is not something that an individual should be determining; it should be a collective thought. The only thing an individual should decide on is whether to award the comment a -1/0/1 purely based on the comment, nothing more. This change removes everyt…
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Voting patterns showed a lot of users voted to get a comment to what they felt was an appropriate score: they wouldn't up- or downvote something unless they felt its current score was too low or high respectively. But if comment scores aren't displayed, you won't need to anymore.
In fact I will go as far as to say that the ideal interface would be one that let me specify what the ideal score of every comment should be and my vote should be counted as an upvote if its below that value and a downvote if its above that...
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Ones near the top are some kind of product of age (more recent) and score (higher). By the way, the kind of skimming you're describing is what leads to mob voting :) People skim for the highest rated stuff, read it, then rate it up more. Plenty of good comments never get rated up, and people who say the most inflammatory stuff (or just make stupid jokes) get the votes early on and stay in the "lead" as it were, the s…
I think you hit the nail on it's head in the later part of your comment. I think what is killing reddit is that funny attracts 10x votes when insightful attracts x and lately that is exactly what is happening here. But I don't think this experiment is a solution at all. The thread as ordered by the HN algo is definitely not the right order to read a thread.
I think this change is for the better.
Weird suggestion: now hide the contributor too, avoiding the "vote pg up anyway"category of upvotes. Then there's just a list of comments and one can vote them up or down on the content of the comment. Ok I did say it was weird. EDIT: Some great counterpoints below. I agree with them. This is a bad idea.
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Ok, now there should be scores next to your own comments. Better?
You know how sometimes online stores won't tell you the price of something until you add it to your cart? Hacker News feels kind of like that now. Like price, comment score is the best indicator of context, class, and quality. I feel kind of lost.
It can be when the site is new and only an overall smart population lives on it, but yc is (I guess) growing, and as it grows the quality of the voting (and therefore the score) decreases: insightful comments running against the general opinion get mercilessly downvoted, useless comments matching the general opinion rise.