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Re: Edward Snowden’s Privacy Tips: “Get Rid of Dropbox,” Avoid Facebook and Google

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Post by xnull » Thu, Oct 23, 2014, 9:03 PM UTC

lern_too_spel wrote: post #117

xnull wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we've exhausted this branch of this topic, but I'm sure we'll have an opportunity to discuss this further on other Snowden articles and I look forward to doing exactly that.

So you'll spout the exact same nonsense in another thread, I'll call you on it, you won't present any evidence for your nonsense, and suggest we do this again? No, thanks. I'll pass. If you have any evidence, present it now.

Uh, yeah how about NSA's access to TEMPORA.

Your post is a classic example of shifting the burden of proof. You are the one with the belief that contradicts documents, leakers, whistleblowers, journalistic reporting, senatorial reports, US history, partner documents, and on.

Or if you need more direct links look through the other branches of this thread. Plenty of evidence, much of it directly from the Congressional oversight committee itself.

The nonsense comes from trying to reinterpret a small number of slides and to then broaden that interpretation to a expansive umbrella.

It is simply truly the case that the NSA and partnered agencies have broad access to sweeping untargetted collection of data.

Re: Edward Snowden’s Privacy Tips: “Get Rid of Dropbox,” Avoid Facebook and Google

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Post by xnull » Thu, Oct 23, 2014, 9:07 PM UTC

lern_too_spel wrote: post #94

nitrogen wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a key is stored on your phone, it can be obtained the same way any other data is obtained. If the key is password protected, a key logger would yield the password. Edit: I forgot to check to whom I replied; "lern_to_spel" shows up on all of the Snowden threads.

The key is not stored in the clear, and the device password is entered before a keylogger can run. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/10/even-golden-key-can-be...

It's called "key escrow" and there are tons of ways to do it.

Look up US patents under 380/286 classification.

Re: Edward Snowden’s Privacy Tips: “Get Rid of Dropbox,” Avoid Facebook and Google

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Post by lern_too_spel » Wed, Oct 29, 2014, 4:16 AM UTC

xnull wrote: post #121

lern_too_spel wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you'll spout the exact same nonsense in another thread, I'll call you on it, you won't present any evidence for your nonsense, and suggest we do this again? No, thanks. I'll pass. If you have any evidence, present it now.

Uh, yeah how about NSA's access to TEMPORA. Your post is a classic example of shifting the burden of proof. You are the one with the belief that contradicts documents, leakers, whistleblowers, journalistic reporting, senatorial reports, US history, partner documents, and on. Or if you need more direct links look through the other branches of this thread. Plenty of evidence, much of it directly from the Congressional…

Tempora has nothing to do with the companies giving the NSA access to their data. Try to stay on topic.

Shifting the burden of proof? You're the one claiming something illegal is going on without any evidence. I might as well call you a rapist and ask you to prove you aren't.

Re: Edward Snowden’s Privacy Tips: “Get Rid of Dropbox,” Avoid Facebook and Google

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Post by lern_too_spel » Wed, Oct 29, 2014, 4:36 AM UTC

xnull wrote: post #122

lern_too_spel wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The key is not stored in the clear, and the device password is entered before a keylogger can run. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/10/even-golden-key-can-be...

It's called "key escrow" and there are tons of ways to do it. Look up US patents under 380/286 classification.

I know what key escrow is. Nitrogen didn't claim that Apple does that, and for good reason -- there is absolutely zero evidence that they do.