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Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by axlprose »

selmnoo wrote: post #35
stevewepay wrote: post #14

I've had the iPhone 6 since Sept 19. In the 10 days since then, I've shattered the screen, when it slipped out of my pocket as I got out of a chair, and bent the phone just yesterday, after putting it in my back pocket and sitting down on it (and then immediately getting up when I realized what I did). Let me tell you that the bending issue is very real. My phone isn't bent like those consumer reports videos, but it…

As I commented last night, I personally know someone who got his phone bent as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8385941 It's extremely frustrating that when I and my friend told this to others, we get accused of lying. Granted that in the large scheme of things these are anecdotes, but it's still not a lie. The phones bend when you keep them in your front pant pocket, a handful of people have reported this.

This phenomenon has been proven already repeatedly, not sure why people would get labeled as liars about it. A german site even made a 'bend' comparison between it and the Galaxy Note:

http://www.phonecruncher.com/news/2576225/apple_bans_german_...

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by richardjs »

CountSessine wrote: post #98
richardjs wrote: post #79

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When did durability stop being a factor used to assess a phone's quality? As someone who is somewhat accident prone (and who doesn't want to spend too much time fretting about protecting my phone), it's something I care about. Granted, I don't this should be as big of an issue as some people are making it out to be, but I think the discussion should go beyond chastising owners for putting their phones in the wrong po…

When did durability stop being a factor used to assess a phone's quality? When consumers expressed a clear preference for big, thin phones that offer a lot of mechanical advantage to their round butts when sitting on them. it's something I care about But not enough to buy a smaller, more durable phone? One with a thick, rubber or plastic exterior case? No? I didn't think so. That's not much better than saying "you're…

But not enough to buy a smaller, more durable phone? One with a thick, rubber or plastic exterior case? No? I didn't think so.

I only just recently upgraded from an old feature phone to a Moto G. One of the major reasons I selected it was its relative cost versus other phones, and thus less worrying on my part about it (also, it was the cheapest phone Republic Wireless was offering). While that's not specifically buying based on durability, it's the same idea of being concerned about how much money you've sunk versus how easily it will break.

Even still, I don't go sitting on it (or, if I discover I'm sitting on it, I immediately cease the sitting action). I'm not arguing Apple should refund these people for their bent phones or anything, and I agree that people should take personal responsibility for their actions. I'm just fine with the potential lack of durability being discussed, which is the issue stevewepay originally mentioned.

EDIT: Upon further thinking, I agree that my comparison to "you're holding it wrong" is somewhat mistaken. While the grip one uses on a phone doesn't have any common-sense effects, putting a phone in your back pocket and sitting on it should have clear potential consequences, even if phones of the past typically had the durability to withstand it.

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

jbigelow76 wrote: post #23
Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #9

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I'm sure he feels better getting it all off his chest and it's good to have a hobby. And if you can't have a hobby then being irrationally angry on the internet will do instead.

And if you can't have a hobby then being irrationally angry on the internet will do instead Judging by scope, being irrationally angry on the internet seems to be a hobby unto itself.

I see it more as a state of mind. An angry, angry state of mind.

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by personZ »

rsynnott wrote: post #93
personZ wrote: post #87

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Also, if they'd wanted A57, they could have just implemented it; it was available in the right timeframe. No it wasn't. A57 wasn't actually done when Apple outed Cyclone. Apple clearly ran with early aspects of A57 (your disingenuous misreading about ARMv8 being ignored). At exactly the same timeframe, nvidia, Qualcomm, and others had as many details of A57 and ARMv8, and none of them ran with it. Indeed, nvidia and…

> No it wasn't. A57 wasn't actually done when Apple outed Cyclone. Apple clearly ran with early aspects of A57 (your disingenuous misreading about ARMv8 being ignored) In April 2013, ARM announced that the first production A57 chip had been fabbed and tested at an unspecified prior date: http://www.arm.com/about/newsroom/arm-and-cadence-partner-to... > At exactly the same timeframe, nvidia, Qualcomm, and others had a…

It's a close to certainty that Cyclone significantly borrows from A57, if only from a time to market perspective.

http://mobilesemi.blogspot.ca/2014/09/apples-64-bit-processo...

By Oct. 2012, Samsung had licensed the A53 and A57 core designs: http://www.techhive.com/article/2013298/arm-introduces-64bit.... . They didn't have 'many details'; they had the design itself.

ARM designs are like a GIT repository, and the AXX continued having revisions and changes through 2013. Running with it early and you are bound to either go on a detour or end up with a noncompetitive variant.

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by frandroid »

koyote wrote: post #86
Kaihuang724 wrote: post #62

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As others have mentioned, it really depends on your use case. I use my phone as my primary camera, and my iPhone 6 is miles better than my iPhone 5. Although if you're not going to be taking advantage of any of the new features, then you're definitely not going to feel like a $700 phone is worth it. Then again, there's no point in even considering an upgrade to any device if your current phone is perfectly suitable.

Wouldn't investing that money in a 'real' camera be more ideal though? I feel that most phones these days have pretty adequate cameras for their most common use-cases (Instagram, facebook, some holiday/party snaps, etc.). For any other use-case a proper camera is the way to go in my opinion.

iPhone 5 and 6 have hardware and software features, like the 1000-gradient flash, that are unavailable on any other camera. It's one of the best point n shoot cameras on the market.

I have a decent DSLR, and I rarely use it because I rarely happen to carry it. Even when I had a Galaxy S, with a pretty poor camera, I was making much more use of the phone camera than I thought I ever would. The affordances for instant editing and posting are just a world apart on smartphones.

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Post by asd »

vegashacker wrote: post #30
stevewepay wrote: post #14

I've had the iPhone 6 since Sept 19. In the 10 days since then, I've shattered the screen, when it slipped out of my pocket as I got out of a chair, and bent the phone just yesterday, after putting it in my back pocket and sitting down on it (and then immediately getting up when I realized what I did). Let me tell you that the bending issue is very real. My phone isn't bent like those consumer reports videos, but it…

Any chance of Apple covering the bending issue free of charge? I'd actually expect them to if you took it into an Apple Store.

Nope. I just paid $79 under Apple Care Plus to have mine repaired. I ran into a corner of a table and decimated my 6+.

https://imgur.com/spdm6mm

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Post by ghshephard »

hnal943 wrote: post #70
ghshephard wrote: post #49

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I'm with the parent. If you think sitting on a phone in your back pocket is a problem, I don't think the solution is a "stronger phone."

You're wrong. I also do this all the time and if my phone broke I'd be outraged because every phone built before the iphone 6 can handle that kind of stress. The phone is the outlier, not the use case.

I'm 185 pounds, and I'm absolutely confident that if I ever placed any of my iPhones in my back jeans pocket and sat on it, it would be destroyed in under a month.

It has a glass screen, that alone should make it obvious that you shouldn't sit on it.

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by ghshephard »

saturdaysaint wrote: post #116
ghshephard wrote: post #48

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This really depends on (A) How often you use your phone, (B) What you use your phone for, and (C) most importantly, how old your phone is. Anybody who actively uses their phone, particularly the Camera, CPU and GPU capability, definitely stands to see a pretty big improvement if they upgrade every three years, and definitely every four. The jump (for me) from the 3GS to the iPhone 5 was massive, particularly around t…

If you're on corporate e-mail, which almost always demands a password, I couldn't think of living without TouchID. Even using a dead simple/dumb password or swipe pattern would drive me up the wall.

I'm looking forward to touch ID, particularly as I have a 10 digit passcode and a (company enforced) 5 minute timeout on my phone.

Re: The iPhone 6 Review

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Post by leonroy »

Alphasite_ wrote: post #50
mbillie1 wrote: post #28

> At this point, it’s not really possible to revolutionize the smartphone I see this sentiment batted around quite a bit these days. Just because nobody has revolutionized the smartphone in the past few years doesn't mean it's not possible.

No, but there isn't any low hanging fruit.

Really? We might have said that on January 8th 2007 too...

It's always tricky anticipating the point of sufficiency. Probably because it's a moving target.

Besides I'm not sure that the iPhone was such low hanging fruit. It probably cost Apple a tonne of R&D and effort to research and build and was ahead of its time by at least a good couple of years.

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