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Re: Peter Sunde arrested in Sweden

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Post by oliwary »

Tombone5 wrote: post #78
oliwary wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not bankruptcy, but "skuldsanering", which resembles "debt relief order" in English. It is a system for heavily indebted people to free themselves of their debt after living on a minimum for five years. It also includes damages due to crimes. [1] It is pretty rare however (5357 in 2013)[2]. There are two requirements: The person has to be indebted enough to not be able to pay off the debt in the foreseeable future, a…

From my reading of the fastställda tingsrättsdomen I note that they mention this excpetion being granted on a case by case basis, and considering Sunde is not a reformed alcoholic with a debth from a accident caused by his addiction it seems unlikely the case you refer to proves more than the existence of the exception.

Indeed. My point was only that skuldsanering would free him from the damages, not that it is necessarily applicable in this case.

Re: Peter Sunde arrested in Sweden

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Post by thaumasiotes »

zanny wrote: post #68
sergiosgc wrote: post #31

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Not in Portugal. They may extend to 25 by accumulation, but other than that, the limit is absolute. You may conclude that someone is insane and force them to be institutionalized, but that is not prison, and the decision is not ever final.

I don't think I'd be really comfortable with convicted serial murderers walking around. Hell, any murderer. Manslaughter can be a mistake or an accident, but if you intentionally aggressively killed someone I'd rather not be walking past you on a street or participating with you in an open market... I don't believe in the death penalty, but I also believe an essential function of prison is to remove the irredeemable…

> Manslaughter can be a mistake or an accident, but if you intentionally aggressively killed someone I'd rather not be walking past you on a street or participating with you in an open market

It is my understanding that if you assault someone intending to injure them and accidentally kill them, that is murder in the second degree, unless they provoked you so much that the position of the law is "they were asking for it" (USA) (http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/second-degree-m... , http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/voluntary-mansl...). I can see your objection to serial killers, but the hypothetical 2nd-degree-murderer doesn't seem to be much risk unless you like to get into bar fights.

The same resource also points out that if anyone dies (and there's some sort of iffy connection to you) while you're committing a felony of any kind, you're guilty of murder. Robbing 7-11 with your buddy who you didn't realize was armed will get you convicted of murder if he happens to shoot and kill anyone.

Re: Peter Sunde arrested in Sweden

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Post by thaumasiotes »

aeflash wrote: post #111
erikano wrote: post #84

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Off topic, but I just wanted to point out that Google Translate is really great. The quality of this translation is probably better than many human non-professional-translators would write.

I think Swedish to English is pretty easy to do automatically to some satisfaction -- there are a lot of similarities in grammar and most words have direct translations. Chinese to English or Japanese to English with that level of clarity would be much more impressive.

Google translate is completely worthless between chinese and english (either direction). I'm baffled every time I see people praising it.

Re: Peter Sunde arrested in Sweden

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Post by _delirium »

aeflash wrote: post #111
erikano wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Off topic, but I just wanted to point out that Google Translate is really great. The quality of this translation is probably better than many human non-professional-translators would write.

I think Swedish to English is pretty easy to do automatically to some satisfaction -- there are a lot of similarities in grammar and most words have direct translations. Chinese to English or Japanese to English with that level of clarity would be much more impressive.

The short sentences and relatively simple grammar also remove a lot of the common sources of intelligibility-threatening Google Translate errors. With German->English the most common serious error I find is that it'll unwind a compound sentence the wrong way: matches up verbs with the wrong clauses, orders clauses in an order that ends up nonsensical in English, etc. Scandinavian languages don't tend to use complex, multi-clause sentence constructions, so there's less opportunity to completely screw up the structure.

Re: Peter Sunde arrested in Sweden

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Post by Excavator »

elinchrome wrote: post #96
baddox wrote: post #60

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> Why would the police give two shits about the EU election? Because police are part of the government, and the government of Sweden has obvious reasons to care about EU elections.

Ideally police should just enforce the laws on the books and have no government influence of their actions, aside from the changing of laws.

No worries! It's not the government that is the major influencer; for example, in 2006, you had Henrik Pontén¹ of the Svenska Antipiratbyrån physically leading the raid against The Pirate Bay host and Jim Keyzer², the lead investigator for the case, was employed by Warner Brothers during the investigation.

1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrik_Pont%C3%A9n

2: https://torrentfreak.com/warner-confesses-pirate-bay-cop-com...

Re: Peter Sunde arrested in Sweden

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Post by Excavator »

vinkelhake wrote: post #28
hocaoglv wrote: post #10

Gottfrid Svartholm is currently being held in solitary confinement in Denmark, Peter Sunde is arrested in Sweden. I thought these countries were like role models.

Sunde was tried and sentenced. He's been on the run since and hasn't served the time. Are sentences from trials ignored in role model countries?

He's been busy campaigning¹ during the EU elections.

1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fModmx3U8HI

Re: Peter Sunde arrested in Sweden

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Post by dewey »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #119
belorn wrote: post #92

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I assume you got tax records to support that PRQ is earning money like crazy? I am going to assume that the tax collectors know their job and is not letting a crazy revenue source continue going untaxed. For TPB advertisement, do you have numbers on how competitive advertisement space is for a website like the pirate bay? Would startups here forexample be willing to pay top dollars for ads there? Willing to use untra…

What's the point of using untraceable methods to pay for advertising? Won't your name be right there in the ad?

The companies advertising in places like this are usually not exactly the ones with a legit business address and a great track record of being transparent.

The money made from ads is probably a lot less than the ad revenue you know from other places, there are a lot of middlemen, ad networks, and money services involved and everyones takes their cut.

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