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Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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I started using DDG a long time ago when it first came out. I asked for a few stickers to add at my IT department, but I got a good bunch instead. There are now random DDG stickers in various cities around southern Ontario.

Any way to get some more in Europe?

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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post #45

If you are using DuckDuckGo for privacy reasons, I strongly suggest you use https://startpage.com/ instead. DuckDuckGo isn't much better than Google; both of them hijack your links. This gives an opportunity to track what you click on. If you watch carefully your links go to "r.duckduckgo.com" -- this page also doesn't use SSL. For example: http://r.duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikip... StartPage doe…

r.duckduckgo.com is actually there for privacy, to remove HTTP referers. See: https://duck.co/help/results/rduckduckgocom

If you search using POST, that isn't a problem. Also, referer headers aren't sent to unencrypted links so if https://duckduckgo.com sent me to http://example.com they would not see where I came from.

Those two combined offer better privacy as no website can know what you were searching for and only secure websites know you came from DuckDuckGo. This setup doesn't give DuckDuckGo a chance to track what I'm clicking on.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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I used to use DDG as my primary search provider for half a year, was unhappy with the user experience/search results but after a couple preliminary searches, everything is looking up! Well done DDG, really, really stoked for you guys to get better. (And it looks like you definatly are!)

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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post #112
post #45

If you are using DuckDuckGo for privacy reasons, I strongly suggest you use https://startpage.com/ instead. DuckDuckGo isn't much better than Google; both of them hijack your links. This gives an opportunity to track what you click on. If you watch carefully your links go to "r.duckduckgo.com" -- this page also doesn't use SSL. For example: http://r.duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikip... StartPage doe…

> StartPage doesn't hijack links, it (optionally) uses POST and you never send a referer header so traffic looks organic ... and looks like MSN Search results from 2006. Not just ugly and cluttered, which I don't mind too much, but dysfunctional too: no keyboard navigation between results nor editing the search query without using the mouse to focus the box. That is an immediate no-go for me.

I don't like the design either, it's definitely one of DuckDuckGo's strengths, especially the new redesign. It's very nice.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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One thing that is bothering me is the filling in of search queries when you mouse over them. One wrong move with the mouse if you have a query partially typed in, and you have to backspace all of the automatically filled in stuff. Other than that, I think it's pretty nice.

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using Firefox. I see a lot of r.duckduckgo.com entries in my history. Edit: I can't replicate in Chrome or Safari but if I change my user-agent in Safari, it begins hijacking my URLs. The JavaScript is obfuscated so it's hard to tell if it's actually checking for Firefox or not. The function it calls is DDG.get_http_redirect

You can read more about that here: https://duck.co/blog/https-on-by-default It has no privacy impact since we do not store or collect personal information.

>we do not store or collect personal information.

But the redirection is done over plain HTTP and not HTTPS. If you don't have a wildcard certificate, you could use /r?url=... instead of a subdomain.

Ideally, the best setup would be to use the "noreferrer" attribute on anchor tags. It's a relatively new standard but perhaps you could detect if it's supported and then use that rather than a redirector?

https://www.webkit.org/blog/907/webkit-nightlies-support-htm...

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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post #15

DDG has been my primary search engine for nearly 2 years. I love you guys for both your service and your mission. You've struggled in the past with local searches and map inferences to non-address searches (think "Godwin Park Houston"). I threw those at next.ddg and the result back were very good. I don't see having to !g a query for these in future. I'll edit as I use the beta in the next few days but first impressi…

Try this query: https://next.duckduckgo.com/?q=whole+foods+falls+church+va

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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post #98

I use DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine and have had a positive experience using it. This redesign incorporates two of the worst design trends today: very low contrast text and gratuitously, obnoxiously large fixed headers. I dislike fixed headers on any non-phone/tablet UI because almost all laptop and desktop screens are widescreen. Fixed position elements on the sides of the screen make much more sense, altho…

A practical application for fixed headers is retaining access to search fields on pages with infinite scrolling (which is why they're doing it here). Otherwise, you might be ten pages deep and then have to scroll all the back up to search again. With this, search is accessible at all times.

The ‘search field’ is called an address bar combined with predefined search engines in my browser and accessible at all times using C-x f d without fiddling around with site-defined search entry fields. Oh, and it’s much smaller and takes up space anyhow…

Re: The next version of DuckDuckGo

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post #105

I use DuckDuckGo as my primary search engine and have had a positive experience using it. This redesign incorporates two of the worst design trends today: very low contrast text and gratuitously, obnoxiously large fixed headers. I dislike fixed headers on any non-phone/tablet UI because almost all laptop and desktop screens are widescreen. Fixed position elements on the sides of the screen make much more sense, altho…

Thanks for the feedback! Our current version also has a fixed header, and that can be turned off in the settings, which we plan to make work in this next version as well. Noted on contrast. We will look into it more -- that's exactly the kind of feedback we were hoping to get.

+1 on the low contrast comment. It's all the rage nowadays, but this one of those trends that I think people will look back on in a few years and say, "How did anyone ever think that was a good idea?"
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