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Re: Memories of Steve

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Post by 2mur »

drcube wrote: post #119
lkd wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He paid attention, just the wrong kind of attention -- crackpot cuckoo crazy alternative medicine attention. If he had received the recommended surgery immediately upon the initial diagnosis, he very likely would still have been alive.

Didn't he have pancreatic cancer? That's not the kind a little chemo can fix. It has a very high rate of mortality. Patrick Swayze died from it not too long before Jobs. I'm not defending the new age medicine he opted for first. But I don't think it's what caused his death. Might have hastened it a little is all.

Steve Jobs had a neuroendocrine tumor.

These are generally fair better behaved than the more common and far more deadly type of cancer you are probably familiar with, pancreatic ductal adenocarcinoma. While pancreatic ductal adenocarcinomas have a dismal prognosis, most neuroendocrine tumors have a good survivability index.

Re: Memories of Steve

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Post by midas007 »

2mur wrote: post #121
drcube wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't he have pancreatic cancer? That's not the kind a little chemo can fix. It has a very high rate of mortality. Patrick Swayze died from it not too long before Jobs. I'm not defending the new age medicine he opted for first. But I don't think it's what caused his death. Might have hastened it a little is all.

Steve Jobs had a neuroendocrine tumor. These are generally fair better behaved than the more common and far more deadly type of cancer you are probably familiar with, pancreatic ductal adenocarcinoma. While pancreatic ductal adenocarcinomas have a dismal prognosis, most neuroendocrine tumors have a good survivability index.

Yeah, a hacker artist friend passed just last year from a pancreatic ductal adenocarcinoma.

Re: Memories of Steve

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Post by mathattack »

Great stories. It says a lot about Apple that time, in addition to Steve. The personal side is good too.

Yes, Steve could be intense at times. But he was also a real person. He had to deal with the ordinary and mundane aspects of life like everyone else. Maybe even enjoy them.

Re: Memories of Steve

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Post by mark_integerdsv »

bitL wrote: post #38
general_failure wrote: post #6

It looks like some people like Steve are charismatic enough to get the complete devotion of very talented people. It's a great personality trait to have and pretty much guarantees success. We all know geniuses in our everyday life like Wozniak, Bob, cook. But how many of us can get these guys be terrified of us, make them change their lives for our visin and make them give us their complete attention... That's the be…

It's probably common in technology area that due to Dunning-Kruger effect many super talented engineers have low self-esteem and real-life skills, and are attracted by "magical" personalities, forming narcissist-codependent pairs. I see it all around, it's sad, but unless engineers fix their broken "insides", it's going to happen. It's then pretty logical that the narcissistic part of the pair gets all the fame, spot…

Is it not possible that what you describe as a two-way parasitic relationship is in fact one of symbiosis?

Re: Memories of Steve

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Post by jarjoura »

smlangley wrote: post #112
savv wrote: post #57

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One time when I attended WWDC all the food served was vegan at the main social event. The impression here is Job's food preferences filter down as a mandate for all. At least in this instance.

Then there was WWDC in 2002 where there was a mound of Krispy Kreme donuts for the afternoon snacks.

OMG, I remember that year! It was even worse in 2003 when they moved it to Moscone. Fresh made Jamba Juice and mounds of Krispy Kreme donuts galore. It was super gross to be honest. :-) I haven't eaten a Krispy Kreme donut since that year.

Re: Memories of Steve

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Post by [deleted] »

smlangley wrote: post #112
savv wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One time when I attended WWDC all the food served was vegan at the main social event. The impression here is Job's food preferences filter down as a mandate for all. At least in this instance.

Then there was WWDC in 2002 where there was a mound of Krispy Kreme donuts for the afternoon snacks.

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Re: Memories of Steve

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Post by stormbrew »

lkd wrote: post #72
chris_wot wrote: post #58

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I can explain. a. It was bought on-campus. b. If he stopped all donut services because of one guy who looked unhealthy, then it again shows how capricious he was. One person who looked a little unhealthy ate a donut on one occasion and he removed donuts from every single store on campus for every single person for no reason other than he didn't like to see someone who looked pasty and obese walking around eating a do…

As a counterpoint (and believe me, I take no pleasure in defending Jobs here) it would probably have been illegal to ban donut sales only to the obese.

I... don't think the GP was suggesting he should have done that...

Re: Memories of Steve

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Post by hubtree »

This part sums up why I quit using OS X for my personal projects: "And if your software crashed, you didn’t make excuses. You just made damn sure that particular scenario didn’t happen again. Ever."

In making sure nothing ever crashes, Apple has moved more and more to an OS that is too restrictive for my taste.

Re: Memories of Steve

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Post by jimmaswell »

savv wrote: post #57
beaner wrote: post #49

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I don't get it either and I have no idea why you're being downvoted.

One time when I attended WWDC all the food served was vegan at the main social event. The impression here is Job's food preferences filter down as a mandate for all. At least in this instance.

sounds unoptimal
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