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Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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post #44

> Downloading copyrighted material may be illegal in your country. Use at your own risk. Have we seriously just stopped considering the ethical implications of such things? At least these sorts of sites used to pretend they were for things like "public domain movies" and "personal backups."

Doesn't it pretend? The screenshoot shows very old movies. My initial impression from the web site was that this application provided a nice interface to some repository of freely redistributable movies.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

#122
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube has established a huge gray zone though! So much of the material I watch there is not actually uploaded with permission.

And youtube has a sophisticated detection system setup that scans uploads for copyrighted content automatically. I'm thinking with the press this app is getting they are going to be forced to do something similar and block illegal content, or take it offline soon.

this is free software. Even if they did that, someone would fork it to bring back the illegal content.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

#123
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That question has been answered: we have had plenty of piracy for years now -- and do we still have plenty of film/TV/music/book production? Yes! So piracy (at least, as we have known it) is not harmful, in fact it seems almost certainly beneficial economically -- more goods are more widely available.

Many in the music industry who've seen how it looks now vs before MP3s and high bandwidth came along would disagree.

What did professional music look like before radio? Before audio recording? I'm not convinced that business models that emerged due to technological change should be protected from future technology.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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post #101

I clicked "12 years a slave", a movie I have not yet had an opportunity to watch and it started streaming in less than a minute in high quality. I immediately quit the application as it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Please, movie people, let me pay for this. You might kill the cinemas, but you'll still get paid.

It blows my mind that it's 2014 and we can't do this. We are locked behind garbage cable boxes, poorly built custom software, and region locking, all of which is from a different era.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

#125
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That question has been answered: we have had plenty of piracy for years now -- and do we still have plenty of film/TV/music/book production? Yes! So piracy (at least, as we have known it) is not harmful, in fact it seems almost certainly beneficial economically -- more goods are more widely available.

Many in the music industry who've seen how it looks now vs before MP3s and high bandwidth came along would disagree.

Yes but you could also argue that there are many many many more artists making money in the music industry now, and that consumers have much more choice.

Sure they're not all making millions, but I'd rather see an industry with more players each making less money (i.e. more choices for me), than a smaller group of pre-selected artists (and the machinery behind them) that take home tons of money but put out less varied produced-by-committee content designed for mass consumption.

So I think it's arguable whether it's better or worse for the industry, but it's definitely better for the consumer.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

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post #80
post #44

> Downloading copyrighted material may be illegal in your country. Use at your own risk. Have we seriously just stopped considering the ethical implications of such things? At least these sorts of sites used to pretend they were for things like "public domain movies" and "personal backups."

That question has been answered: we have had plenty of piracy for years now -- and do we still have plenty of film/TV/music/book production? Yes! So piracy (at least, as we have known it) is not harmful, in fact it seems almost certainly beneficial economically -- more goods are more widely available.

While there is a lot of piracy, it's relatively small compared to the overall entertainment market. It's still been generally limited to the tech savvy crowd. Setting up bittorrent or usenet is just too hard for the average person. They could learn it, but they are unwilling to even try to.

An app like this? Which is just download and it works? That is a huge threat. My grandma could use this.

So while a small amount of piracy isn't harmful, everyone being able to pirate everything with total ease, is harmful.

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

#127
post #96

Seems somewhat unethical to release something that is essentially designed for piracy.

Is it less ethical than corporations lead by "the man" that refuses to use new technology for fear of not being able to wring every drop of profit out of people? Look at staggered releases of Movie/DVD/rentals/redbox and the fake scarcity to protect profits. I know companies need profit... but on the same time, if it really is THAT easy to get movies to people - then it's time for a shakeup that moves the industry fo…

Movies and music are a luxury item, not an essential. So it is very difficult to construct an ethical argument that supports piracy of newly released works, as there is basically negligible harm to the consumer in not receiving such items for free.

(Compare this to, for example, patents on medical products being used to induce scarcity. The stakes here are life and death - so there is a strong ethical case in favour of ignoring the patents to produce cheaper generic products so they can be supplied to those who would otherwise be unable to pay. As has been done with certain drugs in the developing world.)

Re: Popcorn Time – Watch torrent movies instantly

#129
post #101

I clicked "12 years a slave", a movie I have not yet had an opportunity to watch and it started streaming in less than a minute in high quality. I immediately quit the application as it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Please, movie people, let me pay for this. You might kill the cinemas, but you'll still get paid.

Would you continue watching it if you had an unused ticket for that movie?

Accidentally? Yes.

When I'm at work, I only watch TV as background noise. I rarely get a chance to go to the movies proper nor do I get the time to sit and watch a movie at home. This is the only reason I have Netflix.

This is specific to me and I wouldn't claim to generalize this to a whole population.

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