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Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by dsuth »

grimtrigger wrote: post #56
MatthewWilkes wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"should not of been suggested" twitch

I think a lot of time is wasted on perfecting spelling/grammar because of comments like the one above. Are you having difficulty understanding Scott's message or intent?

I think a lot of time is wasted trying to interpret comments with spelling/grammar problems. Every time I see something like 'should of' instead of 'should have', my brain trips out and I have to re-read the sentence.

For a typical blog post, the amount of effort required to get it right is minuscule in comparison to the number of eyes which will (hopefully) read it. For a public relations employee, it's just a matter of professionalism.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

mattkevan wrote: post #103
greenyoda wrote: post #31

A guy from Adobe replied in the comments. Apparently Adobe is a bit uncomfortable with the advice that their support rep gave about downloading a pirated copy of the software: Hi, your blog post was brought to my attention. After reading this post, I want to apologize for the way that your issue was handled. Our tech support agent provided you incorrect information as far “that its OK to download pirated software”. T…

Funny that, I've downloaded plenty of things from t'internet but the only time I've had a security issue is after I signed up for an Adobe account and they exposed my email and password.

or when they install additional 'value added software' without my consent.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by judk »

sosborn wrote: post #59
grimtrigger wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of time is wasted on perfecting spelling/grammar because of comments like the one above. Are you having difficulty understanding Scott's message or intent?

>I think a lot of time is wasted on perfecting spelling/grammar Are you sure about that? Scour any comments section for 10 minutes and it should be clear that not enough time is being used to perfect spelling/grammar. >Are you having difficulty understanding Scott's message or intent? No, but that doesn't mean we should settle for the lowest common denominator.

I think you mean "greatest common factor". "Lowest common denominator" is in fact the ideal format for clear, accurate expression of computation.

"Lowest common denominator" is what people say when they don't understand what the original term means, and think "lowest" must be worse than "greatest".

See also: "could care less".

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by testrun »

adharmad wrote: post #12
justin66 wrote: post #8

A better, more insightful article than the stupid title implies. The author is dealing with the problem of how to install software he's already paid for.

Smartdraw (www.smartdraw.com) is very similar. They do not even allow you to download the software you have paid for and force an upgrade for a steep price.

I cannot agree more. Bought it once, never again.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by dsuth »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #81
cromulent wrote: post #50

Yet another Adobe story: I paid for CS4, infrequent user, after a couple of hardware changes (SSDs etc) it wouldn't install anymore. Long Skype call to US (over an hour), treated like criminal. Forget it, I'm your customer taking the burden of your business problems. Happy Acorn user now. So many dollars over the years on PS/Macromedia/etc, never again. So tired of companies treating honest customers like criminals.…

>> "Edit: how many times have I bought a movie on iTunes to show my kids how to do it right, and then torrented it as I couldn't wait for the download, too slow." Strange, I find iTunes the fastest way to download media + you can watch while downloading. For me that usually means spend 30-60 seconds downloading and then start watching and the download keeps up.

Not here (Australia). iTunes can take anywhere up to 40 minutes to download enough of a high res movie to start watching. And can then randomly stop the movie as it fails to keep up enough bandwidth over the 1:30 or so run duration.

Torrents are normally half an hour from start to finish.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

judk wrote: post #123
sosborn wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I think a lot of time is wasted on perfecting spelling/grammar Are you sure about that? Scour any comments section for 10 minutes and it should be clear that not enough time is being used to perfect spelling/grammar. >Are you having difficulty understanding Scott's message or intent? No, but that doesn't mean we should settle for the lowest common denominator.

I think you mean "greatest common factor". "Lowest common denominator" is in fact the ideal format for clear, accurate expression of computation. "Lowest common denominator" is what people say when they don't understand what the original term means, and think "lowest" must be worse than "greatest". See also: "could care less".

Lowest common denominator is a phrase with different meanings in different contexts. It means the LCD in maths (used for simplifying fractional arithmetic) and it also means the "basest form of something which all members of a population are able to comprehend/use".

There is a loose commonality in the usage but the term "lowest common denominator" as used here is not the mathematical term. GCF is a mathematical analogy but doesn't work as a direct usage as it would be unclear what the "factor" is that the people are to hold in common whilst in the original phrase it's clear that the denominator (standard) to be held in common is the sum of language understood [and used correctly] by all. It is lowest because greater ones can be achieved by excluding proportions of the population that has been used to establish the standard.

Whilst I couldn't care less the real meaning I've always assumed that "I could care less" is a shorthand for something along the lines of "I could care less but that's too much effort given how little I care about it". YMMV.

All language can be misunderstood by those who wish to misunderstand it.

E&OE.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by kenrikm »

spodek wrote: post #9

> Me: So you’re telling me I should download an illegal copy of your software, and use my legal serial with it? > Support: Yes Sir, that will work. Seems to me if they tell you you can do something with their product, you aren't pirating. You're following their instructions, though I'm no lawyer.

Well, good thing it's so easy to pirate. Older versions only required blocking Adobe servers in your hosts file. The newer ones just need replacement of a single lib. Why do I know this? because I tried to purchase their software and was DENIED "We're sorry but we can't approve your application to purchase Adobe CC.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by kevingadd »

akerl_ wrote: post #30
woah wrote: post #5

Hate to say it, but I pirate Adobe's software for real. I use Pixelmator and Sketch, which are superior products at one tenth of the price. However, I often need to open files in Adobe's legacy formats, and since they do not provide any sort of converter software, I must take the only option available to me.

Can you clarify how pirating Adobe's software is "the only option available to [you]"? I get that it's ridiculously expensive and generally a pain in the ass... but needing to do something expensive doesn't provide justification for bypassing the cost, or in any way make "paying for the product" no longer an option.

There's no way to load PSD files other than paying obscene amounts of money. Both pricing models screw the person who has to occasionally open and view PSDs - the monthly fee screws you unless you're opening and editing lots of files; the one-time fee screws you unless you manage to open a bunch of files before the new version comes out and you're not compatible with what artists/designers are sending you anymore.

At least with formats like DOC, there are free reader apps available and free converters, because the format has public specifications and is used for interchange. In comparison, working with artists and designers is just plain expensive, because they all use Photoshop and the only way to consume their work is to buy Photoshop.

You can call the OP names if you want, but I think the larger evil here is what Adobe's done.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by MichaelGG »

akerl_ wrote: post #106
sergiotapia wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh, it's an industry monopoly they have on a global scale. And a web developer from india cannot afford the huge price that comes with Adobe Photoshop - so they pirate it. Don't care personally, what do you they expect, in the real world? Shades of gray and all that. Another example: games. A AAA game costs 60$ on Steam a price 90% of the people online in South America can't afford. So what happened recently? A lot…

No offense, but there really aren't "shades of gray" here. I've definitely pirated things, but not wanting to pay the cost of something doesn't entitle you to spring forth "illegally downloading" as a justified option. The article's case, where downloading the software legitimately was actually not an option, does establish that other option: he has paid for the software (or the serial, or the dream of software, or w…

There may not be "shades of gray" as far as the legality and fact of copyright infringement goes. But morally, it's certainly not so clear cut. A 14-yr-old me pirated Photoshop and used it to screw around with some filters (I've got little artistic talent) and whatnot. There's certainly no harm done to Adobe in that case - I wasn't gonna buy Photoshop for a total few hours of playing around. Someone living in a poor country that simply could not afford the software is in a similar position. It doesn't harm Adobe, but locks them in further - just like Microsoft benefited greatly from piracy, too.

It's still illegal, but there is clearly different levels of morality. If a large, profitable, studio was pirating software, that's sorta sleazy. People that legitimately can't afford it, eh.

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