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What Happens When One of Your Coworkers Dies

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Re: What Happens When One of Your Coworkers Dies

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Karoushi incidents are national news and are rare (although overwork is common, for reasons that are too much to get into in this post). These also happen in Korea and other parts of Asia; more so than Japan now, possibly. I'm breath taken by the casual disregard for life that you imply the Japanese have.

It reads like overdramatized amateur fiction.

Busy people, in general, avoid getting caught in other people's problems. Tokyo is filled with people who are busy. They may ignore beggars on the street and may not give up their seats. Taking it from there to an extreme (that they are immune to any fear of death) is an ugly reaction.

During the 3/11 earthquake, I was shocked and appalled by the stupidity of one of my co-workers who went on coding as normal while the building shook. (It was experienced as a Shindo 6 earthquake in Yokohama, so it was quite strong - I never ever experienced anything like it in my life). He probably saw it as macho, but it was dangerous - other people then were confused as what to do. He eventually left the company for not being very competent. (Good riddance.)

For every person like him, there were 50-100 people on the staff who were shocked, shaking, crying or scared. I find they reacted pretty much as I'd expect people in any school in Canada would have reacted. It certainly was more-or-less how we reacted when one of our class fellows put an end to his life.

I find it distasteful that people fetishise another group of people (especially people with the same capitalist democratic strain of lifestyle) to the extent that they basically superhuman or inhuman.

Re: What Happens When One of Your Coworkers Dies

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During University, my professors routinely called this "The bus scenario", are harped it on us every project. Luckily, nobody got hit by a bus, but we all wound up very diligent at source control.

I always knew it as your "bus number": how many engineers could get hit by a bus before your project ground to a halt.

I call it our bus factor. It's currently one, but we're hiring ;)

Re: What Happens When One of Your Coworkers Dies

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Interesting. bluekitten seems to have been hellbanned after posting only two comments. Is that all it takes? Edit: And in the time it took me to post this, the comment appears!

This is both mistaken and a distraction from a very important topic. EDIT: It's mistaken that she was banned for her two comments. It's unreasonable to read her comments and conclude she was hellbanned for asking a question about Steam and correcting someone about her gender. There's also no way to know whether she was hellbanned, or simply posting comments via Tor. If a new account posts comments via Tor, those comm…

Eh, I wouldn't say it's a distraction, considering people reveal hellbanning on any manner of topics, for a legitimate reason.

And it's not mistaken, I nearly alerted bluekitten that they were banned for no real reason on a different thread, before someone else pointed it out.

Re: What Happens When One of Your Coworkers Dies

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Interesting. bluekitten seems to have been hellbanned after posting only two comments. Is that all it takes? Edit: And in the time it took me to post this, the comment appears!

Yes. Hellbanning is random. Although making 'dissenting' comments, or disagreeing with the hivemind certainly accelerates your hellbanning. I've been hellbanned umpteen times for essentially no good reasons.

> Hellbanning is random ... I've been hellbanned umpteen times for essentially no good reasons.

LOL. Replies to previous comments of yours:

> Well trolled...time to move on

> Feel like I am replying to a obvious troll

Re: What Happens When One of Your Coworkers Dies

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One of my coworkers, my mentor and someone who taught me what it meant to be a good programmer, was murdered by his wife, who also murdered their two children and then killed herself. It took place over a holiday, and I noticed he hadn't shown up afterwards. After a couple of days, I asked my boss if he was on vacation, and he said no, so I emailed him. His body and his family were found the next day by his neighbors…

Hi Steven, Sorry to hear your horrible experience loosing good friend and after reading your reply, i feel that the person like him did not deserve such death :( Sometime it is very difficult for human to understand GOD and his punishment !

>Sometime it is very difficult for human to understand GOD and his punishment !

How does it feel to be a terrible fucking person?

Re: What Happens When One of Your Coworkers Dies

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Right. What time of year was it in the first case? I would think it's easier to get over if it's the summer or around Christmas when people are going home for vacations.

That's a good question, it was...10, 11 years ago? I think it was spring or early summer. Looking back, I think the endless ceremonies, reminiscing, room naming...his office was a shrine for a couple months and nobody emptied it of his personal affects until his widow came and asked...I think it extended out the difficult feelings longer than it would have if everybody had been driven back to work or gone on vacation…

Someone in my company died of illness - someone quite young so it was a surprise and a shock to all around him. It has been more than a year and his computers are still on his desk...

Re: What Happens When One of Your Coworkers Dies

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We are all just 1 second away from a tragedy. When I was learning how to drive a car my instructor told me: see the light turned green, hold on, wait for an idiot, then wait for a taxi cab, then go slowly.

Similarly, my mother always told me to drive as if the oncoming person who appears to be stopping is NOT, and that people with turn signals on are liars or forgetful, and will continue straight, when evaluating safety of turning right. Sometimes it feels like I drive like the stereotypical granny, but this has saved my bacon several times in the past two decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_driving

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadcraft

Re: What Happens When One of Your Coworkers Dies

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We are going through this where I work currently, a co-worker, a good friend, passed away on the 13th. We'd been joking the day before about what food item he was going to bring in the next week though we all knew what it would be.

While he had been sick for a few years, at times appearing in colors no human should ever appear in, he had been improving steadily and was in very high spirits. To say it caught us off guard is one thing, it caught his doctors and family off guard as well.

It is very odd to have lost two friends who just happened to be coworkers since I started at my current company almost sixteen years ago. I lost my former manager six years ago and this friend who recently died was on the same team.

As a group, those closest never ventured into terrible. Oh we hit the gutter for humor but only in how it relates to our other loss years before. Jokes/comments along the lines of "God probably needed help keeping so and so in line" or "Great, now they are going to team up and take over the place".

Mourning will really hit Saturday at the funeral, its possible that terrible is reached the days after that but only directed at those who don't come who should have come. You know the type, there people you work with who really don't care about anyone else but they sure make a show of it when someone higher up is around. Got them, should be interesting if suspicions are right.

Forgetting, well that won't be all the quick. We still bring up the name of the first to pass from time to time, some people have an over sized impact on organizations when they are alive and when viewed with the rose colored glasses of the past. Yet shouldn't we always only remember the good days?

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