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Technically speaking, "released" can also be a state, so "is released" (as in "is in the released state") works too.
Technically maybe, but when has a native speaker ever written that?
Firefox 26 is released
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Re: Firefox 26 is released
#122Re: Firefox 26 is released
#123Is there any way to update Firefox on Linux without resorting to ugly methods like running it as root and using update UI, or downloading the mar file manually and running the updater CLI tool with that file (as sudo / root)? The issue is that I use stock Mozilla build (I prefer it to Iceweasel on Debian), so I just placed it in /opt, but I don't want to give write permissions to the firefox directory to my primary u…
Also, running a browser (or anything as complex as a GUI app, but especially anything as wildly complex as a browser) as root is probably a bad idea security-wise anyway.
Re: Firefox 26 is released
#124Is there any way to update Firefox on Linux without resorting to ugly methods like running it as root and using update UI, or downloading the mar file manually and running the updater CLI tool with that file (as sudo / root)? The issue is that I use stock Mozilla build (I prefer it to Iceweasel on Debian), so I just placed it in /opt, but I don't want to give write permissions to the firefox directory to my primary u…
Honestly, when I've used official Firefox builds, I've just downloaded the tarball and extracted it to my home directory. Any malicious code that could corrupt your Firefox install can trash your entire home directory anyway, so there's not much gained by making it non-writable. Also, running a browser (or anything as complex as a GUI app, but especially anything as wildly complex as a browser) as root is probably a…
Yes, that's why using mar + updater is probably the only "right" option, but it's way too manual. I even thought about writing some script which would extract http sources for mar file based on the current update channel but didn't figure out yet where it's configured.
Re: Firefox 26 is released
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If you have the files dropped in /opt just chown them to your primary user. I have been running like that for some time now and there shouldn't be any issues.
I can chown them, but isn't that bad in general? If something breaks out from the browser, it can overwrite the binary with malicious code or whatever. Is it a real concern? Regular Linux packages aren't accessible for writing for the ordniary user offering some security barrier.
Re: Firefox 26 is released
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That still means it would only be about 5 months.
Yeah. to clarify for people who are not clear, see this https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar
Update: seems so http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/blog-images/australis-...
why didnt they take this chance to fix this, chromium does it>
Re: Firefox 26 is released
#127Is there any way to update Firefox on Linux without resorting to ugly methods like running it as root and using update UI, or downloading the mar file manually and running the updater CLI tool with that file (as sudo / root)? The issue is that I use stock Mozilla build (I prefer it to Iceweasel on Debian), so I just placed it in /opt, but I don't want to give write permissions to the firefox directory to my primary u…
It lets you put multiple versions of the same program in /opt or anywhere else (say, /opt/firefox/25, /opt/firefox/26, etc) and config one of them to be the system version (soft links all the bins and man into /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/share/man, etc), then swap between versions, rollback if there's a problem, etc as necessary with a single command: `update-alternatives --config firefox`.
It works very similarly to those Ruby version managers, RVM and RBENV, by holding multiple versions somewhere out of the way and soft-linking the chosen one into the system folders. So similar in fact, that the Debian repo RBENV package has been rewritten to use Debian Alternatives instead of its home-brewed linker code.
Takes some upfront setup but that's scriptable and reusable for all subsequent versions [2], and is well worth it, especially for programs where you don't want to use the Debian repo version, don't want to install a 3rd party .deb, and don't want to compile directly to your system folders.
[1]: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianAlternatives
[2]: https://github.com/byrongibson/scripts/tree/master/install/h..., https://github.com/byrongibson/scripts/tree/master/install/j..., https://github.com/byrongibson/scripts/tree/master/install/s...
Re: Firefox 26 is released
#128Is there any way to update Firefox on Linux without resorting to ugly methods like running it as root and using update UI, or downloading the mar file manually and running the updater CLI tool with that file (as sudo / root)? The issue is that I use stock Mozilla build (I prefer it to Iceweasel on Debian), so I just placed it in /opt, but I don't want to give write permissions to the firefox directory to my primary u…
Since you're on Debian and are already putting it in /opt, try the Debian Alternatives tool [1], it's great for managing multiple versions of software you don't install from Deb repos. It lets you put multiple versions of the same program in /opt or anywhere else (say, /opt/firefox/25, /opt/firefox/26, etc) and config one of them to be the system version (soft links all the bins and man into /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin,…
Re: Firefox 26 is released
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> And if you want to claim that it's a memory hog, then you need to take a look at how it behaves on top of memory constrained systems. I can confirm that Firefox regularly runs out of memory and dies on a system with a total of 1G of ram and 512M data segment limit.
And I can confirm that if I load 6 tabs in Firefox and go to work, when I come home it will have eaten 2G of my memory, the next morning it will have eaten 5, and a couple of days later nothing on my system will run without disk thrashing because Firefox is sitting at 96% memory usage.
I leave gmail and lots of other tabs open all the time.
(Mostly I suspect they are better able to find the leaks on Windows, no idea why that would be)
Re: Firefox 26 is released
#130I am curious about this change in the changelog. "Password manager now supports script-generated password fields" I couldn't easily find any details about. Would someone be kind enough to elaborate on what it does and where it is useful?
see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355063