US blogger fined 8,000 Euros by France for criticizing Société Générale

Post by gknoy » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 5:45 PM UTC

grecy wrote: post #79

The hypocrisy of the comments here is hilarious. This is exactly the same as the MPAA shutting down websites and fining people all over the world. All the people here crying "they have no jurisdiction!" are really just getting a taste what their own government has been doing to people all around the world for decades. Never mind 'Murica going around the world enforcing their laws and ideals with their armed forces.

Post by astrobe_ » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 5:46 PM UTC

kenkam wrote: post #35

camus2 wrote: post #32

Not surprising, there is no free speech in France. Especially when it comes to crooked banks or politicians. France is a strange country that likes to give lessons about democracy to the rest of the world, but when you look at things closer, France is closer to a monarchy than a democracy. Everything is so centralised that information usually comes from an single source of truth, that journalist dont even bother ques…

I would very much be interested in the source describing this media-politics marriage dynamic that you mention. >> Not surprising, there is no free speech in France. I don't see this as a free speech thing. I could argue there's no free speech in X. This kind of thing happens everywhere. People with money has power.

Post by antihero » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 5:50 PM UTC

fennecfoxen wrote: post #106

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What in God's holy name does GDP have to do with free speech?

Post by Tloewald » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 5:52 PM UTC

cobrausn wrote: post #94

Tloewald wrote: post #72

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Yeah the United States never does anything outside its jurisdiction that anyone else finds annoying. That said, the level of institutionalized corruption in France is pretty outrageous. If I recall correctly, the president of France receives a truck load of cash every year which can be used with zero accountability (and that's legal ). Of course the French (and pretty much any democratic country) can look at our elec…

Yeah the United States never does anything outside its jurisdiction that anyone else finds annoying. Except we aren't talking about the US right now, we are talking about one particularly boneheaded action by France. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Post by bausson » Thu, Nov 21, 2013, 5:52 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #14

Hermel wrote: post #9

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Maybe the French are fed up with US judges doing this all the time and this is some kind of revenge?

But U.S. judges don't do this all the time. Meanwhile, a number of European countries (notably the U.K.) are famous for dragging foreigners into defamation cases for conduct that happened entirely outside the country. The U.S. tends to invoke jurisdiction only when you do something quite targeted at the U.S.