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Re: The Monster Truck Madness 2 site is unchanged from 1998

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Well, more specifically table-based design. It Just Works (tm).

In some places, table-based designs are apparently still hip, and I come across few for localization. Gives me huge facepalm dealing with them...

you are posting on a table based design right now

Re: The Monster Truck Madness 2 site is unchanged from 1998

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post #78

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Still doesn't change the fact that 15 years ago "we"(as in, programmers, industry, whatever) were much, much more efficient with limited resources than what we are now. Some people consider it a good thing, some of us consider it a bad thing.

This is a meme. Everything high quality happening on mobile is crazy resource constrained.

While it may in fact technically be a 'meme', I think a better word is 'myth'.

Re: The Monster Truck Madness 2 site is unchanged from 1998

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The System Requirements brought back memories: * Multimedia PC with a Pentium 133 or higher processor * Microsoft® Windows® 95 operating system or Windows NT® Workstation operating system version 4.0 with Service Pack 3 * 16 MB of RAM; 32MB recommended * 30 MB of available hard-disk space; 110 MB recommended * Quad-speed CD-ROM drive; 6x recommended * Super VGA, 16-bit color monitor * Microsoft Mouse or compatible po…

A 28.8Kbps Internet Connection used to be considered fast! Optional: 28.8 or higher baud modem for head-to-head play For LAN play a local area network supporting either TCP/IP or IPX protocols is required Internet access required for internet play; connect time charges may apply Microphone for instantaneous voice communication during head-to-head play Graphics accelerator card compatible with the Microsoft Direct3D®…

Um, yep. I remember being stuck on 14.4 back in the day.

Waiting for webpages to load... Well, it was like waiting for webpages to load on an edge connection. Waiting 2-3 min per page load, basically. 2 hours for a browser upgrade download, you know the ones chrome does in the background now... And it might not successfully download the first time. Ahh, those were the days. Napster could take 20min to download an MP3 and still corrupt it.

Re: The Monster Truck Madness 2 site is unchanged from 1998

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post #75

Here's another classic ... even 2006 looks so dated today: http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060703/multimedia/50_science...

http://www.heavensgate.com/

edit: okay just learnt someone already posted this one. needless to say, the visit to this site still creeps me out!

Re: The Monster Truck Madness 2 site is unchanged from 1998

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post #90

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I'm pretty sure a .doc file created fifteen years ago also still renders in Word. Same for a PDF file created 15 years ago or most other formats. So I don't really see your point about open standards in this case.

I'm pretty sure a .doc file created fifteen years ago also still renders in Word. Check this out: http://timtyson.us/archives/2008/01/theft-by-taking/ Old MS Office file formats were never engineered to be future proof in any way, and they're a huge headache for Microsoft, and they do indeed behave oddly in new software, and Microsoft cannot wait to get rid of them, and nobody in their right mind can blame them, hone…

"Open standards /rock/." is a bit overblown, don't you think? There are still very real problems with open (read: sort of "open") standards. In the end we all just want something that works. There are indeed a great deal of proprietary solutions which satisfy this criteria, and continue to do so for many years.

Re: The Monster Truck Madness 2 site is unchanged from 1998

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In some places, table-based designs are apparently still hip, and I come across few for localization. Gives me huge facepalm dealing with them...

you are posting on a table based design right now

Websites and companies we like are exempt from "you're doing it wrong" comments.

Re: The Monster Truck Madness 2 site is unchanged from 1998

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post #43

I'm not sure why, but the '.htm' extension always felt dirty to me. Still does.

It feels DOSsy, to force the file extension to bend to your 3-character limit rather than let it all hang out. Then again, it highlights how accustomed we are now to hiding our filenames with folders and web apps.

Re: The Monster Truck Madness 2 site is unchanged from 1998

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post #125

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I'm pretty sure a .doc file created fifteen years ago also still renders in Word. Check this out: http://timtyson.us/archives/2008/01/theft-by-taking/ Old MS Office file formats were never engineered to be future proof in any way, and they're a huge headache for Microsoft, and they do indeed behave oddly in new software, and Microsoft cannot wait to get rid of them, and nobody in their right mind can blame them, hone…

"Open standards /rock/." is a bit overblown, don't you think? There are still very real problems with open (read: sort of "open") standards. In the end we all just want something that works. There are indeed a great deal of proprietary solutions which satisfy this criteria, and continue to do so for many years.

We're much better off with formats that were documented with inter compatibility in mind in the first place. Historically, it's been quite difficult to build products that work with MSO formats as MS not only did not help meaningfully but actively seeks to hinder others from doing so - plus the format is buggy and odd. Read what Wikipedia has to say on the history of the .doc format:

>Some specifications for Microsoft Office 97 binary file formats were published in 1997 under a restrictive license, but these specifications were removed from online download in 1999. Specifications of later versions of Microsoft Office binary file formats were not publicly available. The DOC format specification was available from Microsoft on request since 2006 under restrictive RAND-Z terms until February 2008. Sun Microsystems and OpenOffice.org reverse engineered the file format. Microsoft released a .DOC format specification under the Microsoft Open Specification Promise. However, this specification does not describe all of the features used by DOC format and reverse engineered work remains necessary.

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