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Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Post by somebehemoth »

arrrg wrote: post #93
scep12 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very sloppy. Especially for Apple.

Eh. Apple has always been phoning in their accessories. They were never particularly good. I don’t see this as indicative of anything, it's just Apple being sloppy as they always are with these kinds of things. Where it counts Apple does not typically exhibit this behaviour, as evidenced by both new iPhones.

I don't agree. Most of Apple's accessories are extremely stylish and complement their hardware: iPad smart cover, keyboards, mouses, chargers, ear buds, and monitors. I think the iPad smart cover alone demonstrates that Apple has the capability to make cases/covers for their mobile devices that are both functional and stylish. What accessories, besides the iPhone case discussed here, do you think Apple has made that are sloppy?

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Post by derefr »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #110
roc wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number of obvious bugs [1] included lends a lot of weight to the impression of it being more about sniping than criticism. [1] z-index, text overlap, mixed states, etc. These are not questionable design choices. They're bugs. And lumping them in only detracts from the site and the many legit design gripes (problems of focus, alignment, contrast, usability, etc.)

Are bugs in the UI not themselves part of the UI? If their goal is point out "sloppiness" in the UI, why should obvious or slightly less-obvious bugs be excluded?

Because it's very likely that anything that would be seen as a "bug" will be fixed in updates; whereas things that are the result of intentional (bad) design, like lack of information hierarchy, probably won't be fixed, because they won't be seen as incorrect. (Which is, nominally, what this tumblr would be for pointing out.)

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Post by chockablock »

nnnnni wrote: post #25

See, this is really frustrating... I mentioned this SAME STUFF (specifically the horrible lack of contrast) months ago just to be met with downvotes and handwaving dismissal. NOW people agree. Better late than never, I guess.

the sooner you stop caring about the up/downvotes of strangers on the Internet, the happier you will be.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Post by rimantas »

electic wrote: post #112

The whole iOS7 UI is not intuitive at all. Look, I love flat UI but when I became and engineer and founder, started talking to customers, I realized that customers are simply not as aware as the people that designed and made software. They don't know what to click, they sometimes don't even know they can click something, and they often get lost. When you go to a Microsoft store and see people playing with Windows 8,…

Yeah, remember when noone could use the webe, because links were not in the form of buttons?

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Post by hcarvalhoalves »

devx wrote: post #4

Most things about iOS7 seem inconsistent, and like they were rushed - which they were. I mean Johny Ive was head of UI for like 9 months only, and had to change everything in iOS in that period. These changes should've arrived in iOS8 in order to be well thought out and mature enough, but for some reason they decided to push them to iOS7.

> I mean Johny Ive was head of UI for like 9 months only, and had to change everything in iOS in that period.

This is the real issue.

There are few "complete redesign" success cases, but somehow Apple thought they would pull it in a matter of months.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Post by efnx »

Many of the problems with consistency (capitalization, placement, return key on keyboard, etc) seem to be in specific apps. In those cases it's the designers and programmers of the company that make the app that are at fault. It's important to be familiar enough with the iOS SDK that you know which bugs are OS territory and which ones are app territory. I'm not trying to dis their eye for bugs, I'm just trying to shrink the surface bugs live on.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Post by matthewaustin »

awj wrote: post #109
romain_dardour wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Newlines are supported on twitter in 3rd party apps, but not in the twitter card nor twitter app indeed. Also, the blog is not called "Apple Sloppy UIs", but "Sloppy UIs". That still qualifies.

> Also, the blog is not called "Apple Sloppy UIs", but "Sloppy UIs". That still qualifies. Tagline to the blog: "We love Apple. We think this is the best way to point out what's not up to their standards so they can fix it." (emphasis mine) Do they expect Apple to fix the UI of other people's apps?

Apple's idea behind their App Store is that every app is reviewed to make sure it's up to their standards. They also provide a myriad of built-in UI elements and a Human Interface Guide that is supposed to direct developers in the design of their app interfaces.

One could postulate that Apple can fix third party apps by altering the available UI elements and interface guidelines. In fact, this type of alteration was done for iOS7 to guide developers into updating their app aesthetics to match iOS7.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Post by warfangle »

efnx wrote: post #126

Many of the problems with consistency (capitalization, placement, return key on keyboard, etc) seem to be in specific apps. In those cases it's the designers and programmers of the company that make the app that are at fault. It's important to be familiar enough with the iOS SDK that you know which bugs are OS territory and which ones are app territory. I'm not trying to dis their eye for bugs, I'm just trying to shr…

So, the same thing apple fanboys have been railing against android about for years?

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Post by HelloMcFly »

derefr wrote: post #122
HelloMcFly wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are bugs in the UI not themselves part of the UI? If their goal is point out "sloppiness" in the UI, why should obvious or slightly less-obvious bugs be excluded?

Because it's very likely that anything that would be seen as a "bug" will be fixed in updates; whereas things that are the result of intentional (bad) design, like lack of information hierarchy, probably won't be fixed, because they won't be seen as incorrect. (Which is, nominally, what this tumblr would be for pointing out.)

I don't think I agree with your last sentence, which seems to be the issue. The site isn't called "The Terrible Design Decisions of iOS7", it called "Sloppy UI" which I think covers both bugs and UI. Further, sometimes it can be hard to differentiate between a bug and a design decision, so I think it's hard to ask them to just stick to one or the other. May as well point out everything you see that isn't up to standards, be those design or implementation.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Post by efnx »

warfangle wrote: post #128
efnx wrote: post #126

Many of the problems with consistency (capitalization, placement, return key on keyboard, etc) seem to be in specific apps. In those cases it's the designers and programmers of the company that make the app that are at fault. It's important to be familiar enough with the iOS SDK that you know which bugs are OS territory and which ones are app territory. I'm not trying to dis their eye for bugs, I'm just trying to shr…

So, the same thing apple fanboys have been railing against android about for years?

Maybe? I don't tend to read about iOS vs Android often. I'd say that's a problem for any company that maintains an app store. I'm sure those inconsistencies exist on iOS6 as well :(
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