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Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer

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Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer

#122
This font will make engineer-types happy, because it's been made in methods that engineers understand and like. Reminds me of Soylent- we don't need to listen to experts in that field, because this is a person I can relate to just going ahead and doing it.

I'm not saying this guy should stop- quite the opposite, please explore, have fun with this, learn. It's the most wonderful thing a person can do.

I don't want to criticize him for trying, I want to criticize us for loving it. Yes, myself included.

We're falling for the same trap that is used in those ads about how a stay at home mom came up with a new skin treatment. People want to believe that they are brilliant, that they are right. When they see someone just like them going against the grain, they want to believe that person is correct.

So the next time you see a post that says "Made by an ENGINEER" and it isn't something an engineer normally makes, do a quick "%s/engineer/stay at home mom/g".

Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer

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> a font for programmers, by a programmer > Every glyph was carefully planned and calculated, according to defined principles and rules. For this reason, Hermit is coherent and regular. I hate to say this, but a font by a programmer makes as much sense as a database library by a font designer. Good font design is not about calculations or following principled rules; it's about what looks good to the eye, and it takes…

It's a fair corrective, but don't forget Knuth -- a programmer who learned a lot about typography and designed quite a few good fonts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Modern). Arguably his fonts aren't the most "well designed", but they have their own Knuthific charm, and they're very legible.

Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seconded. I used to use Menlo, then Incosolata. Ubuntu Mono is by far the absolute best available for programming. Love it!

Still prefer inconsolata at the moment, any particular feature of ubuntu mono that you feel puts it far ahead of others?

The letter l on it's own at small font sizes resembles the number 1 in other fonts too closely. In fact, my default sans font (DejaVu Sans) has the 1 shaped just like the Inconsolata l. I'm sure it's something you get used to but I personally prefer the style used in DejaVu Sans Mono or Ubuntu Mono, where the l shape can't be mistaken for anything else.

Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer

#125
I like the look of this--not necessarily for my daily coding font (Source Code Pro, lately, but Consolas works in a pinch) though it would definitely help for any presentation that needs to display code.

It just looks like a good presentation font to me, with how clean it is at the larger sizes. Might be my love of 8-bit gaming readable fonts, though.

Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer

#126

> a font for programmers, by a programmer > Every glyph was carefully planned and calculated, according to defined principles and rules. For this reason, Hermit is coherent and regular. I hate to say this, but a font by a programmer makes as much sense as a database library by a font designer. Good font design is not about calculations or following principled rules; it's about what looks good to the eye, and it takes…

Except PROGRAMMERS don't generally deal in anything remotely resembling proper grammar that real Font Designers train for. Real fonts are designed to minimize punctuation especially repeated punctuation and programming languages all use special characters nearly as much as alphanumerics.

It doesn't look terrible, is have to try it out on a computer to see if its useful.

Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer

#127
Hello.

I can't tell if this looks ugly or not, before I try it, I really can't relate to the aestethics, before I have tried to use it for a while. What really matters most to me, is how perceivable the source code becomes with it, that is with what ease I read it. I look forward to the download. :)

Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer

#128

> a font for programmers, by a programmer > Every glyph was carefully planned and calculated, according to defined principles and rules. For this reason, Hermit is coherent and regular. I hate to say this, but a font by a programmer makes as much sense as a database library by a font designer. Good font design is not about calculations or following principled rules; it's about what looks good to the eye, and it takes…

My font of choice, Inconsolata, was designed by a programmer.

The entire Metafont collection, was designed by a programmer.

The OP font, was designed by a programmer.

I come to the conclusion that fonts designed by programmers make more sense than database libraries by font designers, unless Hermann Zapf wrote a framework and I've never seen it.

Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer

#129

> a font for programmers, by a programmer > Every glyph was carefully planned and calculated, according to defined principles and rules. For this reason, Hermit is coherent and regular. I hate to say this, but a font by a programmer makes as much sense as a database library by a font designer. Good font design is not about calculations or following principled rules; it's about what looks good to the eye, and it takes…

I think the font is decent, but I won't use it in its current iteration for the following reasons: 1. The lowercase 'm' is muddled and looks bad without anti-aliasing, downright horrible with anti-aliasing. 2. The lowercase 'k' is "too unique" and distracting (personal taste) 3. The lowercase 'e' is too squished and doesn't read well at small point sizes. Overall, this font is not horrible. But with every "programmer…

Agree with your assessment. I searched high and low for a font that serves as a programming font for quite a while. For the longest time I loved Inconsolata and some of it's variations. After a while I got tired of it though. It seemed... sloppy, even though I loved it at first. I think what it lacked, for me at least, was consistency between glyphs. Some where straight and angular, while others curved and it just didn't fit. Now I have settled on DejaVu Sans Mono and it seems to be working for me. It's very balanced and the glyphs are very evenly spaced and take up pretty much the same visual foot print for each glyph. Highly recommend.'

This font that OP is showcasing isn't terrible, for a first pass, but there are some problems (funny lower case f curve really bugs me. It's overly pronounced) that need to be ironed out.

Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer

#130

Personally I'm a fan of using bitmap fonts - currently I use Tamzen for my shell/editor: https://github.com/sunaku/tamzen-font

Ooh, very nice. I like bitmap fonts too, but I use Terminus and GNU Unifont (fallback for glyphs not in Terminus) myself.

I use Terminus too. To me, nothing is more readable [1] than Terminus [2] with the solarized-dark [3] color scheme.

[1] http://i.imgur.com/J7M22rc.png

[2] http://terminus-font.sourceforge.net

[3] http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized

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