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Re: Groupon sales rep threatens restaurant with negative Yelp reviews

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I honestly don't know why this is even on the front page... It shouldn't surprise anyone that companies with thousands of low-paid roles are bound to sometimes end up with people which act unethically - we should be judging these companies based on how they deal with these employees, rather than the mere fact that these employees exist.

> I honestly don't

> know why this is even on the front page...

> It shouldn't surprise anyone that

Yay! I just completed my HN-comment buzzword-bingo card!!

Re: Groupon sales rep threatens restaurant with negative Yelp reviews

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a story about Groupon except insofar as they hire unprofessional, immature sales reps. The sales punk didn't like how he was treated, so he gets revenge by (threatening) to leverage his own personal network. It's pretty unlikely this is some organized practice at Groupon.

Title says "Groupon Sales Rep..." Was it changed?

Nope. Title is exactly the same as it was posted originally (except for "yelp" being capitalized to "Yelp").

Re: Groupon sales rep threatens restaurant with negative Yelp reviews

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He's not saying "Use Groupon or I'll trash your business" he's saying "You treated me poorly and now I'll get my revenge" This guy's a goofball for putting it in writing but social media has definitely changed how businesses have to treat whacky, unreasonable prospect's and customers. (The Groupon angle is a red herring)

He's using Groupon account to send out the email, with his signature tag on Groupon contact, business organization, and everything. For better or worse he was representing Groupon.

Re: Groupon sales rep threatens restaurant with negative Yelp reviews

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Isn't this a protection-money racket (extortion) from a legal perspective? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket > "Extortion is a criminal offense of unlawfully obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion." > "In the United States, extortion may also be committed as a federal crime across a computer system, phone, by m…

This isn't a story about Groupon except insofar as they hire unprofessional, immature sales reps. The sales punk didn't like how he was treated, so he gets revenge by (threatening) to leverage his own personal network. It's pretty unlikely this is some organized practice at Groupon.

Except for the part where Groupon refuses to remove the guy from their harass list.

Re: Groupon sales rep threatens restaurant with negative Yelp reviews

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like- has any business had any? I would love to see how many times a business that tried groupon after the first time.

We've had quite a few people defend them on previous threads about groupon with really positive experiences. They have tended to be places like paintballing or sky diving, things where the cost doesn't go up that much more with the more people who come. And who can upsell (paintballs, photographs). There's a technical business term for those businesses that I can't remember. But apparently they do do well out of grou…

Service-oriented businesses tend to have positive experiences. Pretty much anything where you may have somebody sitting around 1/2 their time doing nothing, just to make sure you've got coverage during all of business hours. Any money you recoup from that 1/2 of the time is money in your pocket.

Anything with inventory costs (e.g. restaurants) have a much harder time. Food costs are a significant portion of the cost of serving a table. It wouldn't be bad to have a loss-leader for one or two meals, but grouponers don't become "the next repeat customer", so you just lose money on the meals with not much to show.

Re: Groupon sales rep threatens restaurant with negative Yelp reviews

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post #20
post #12

I honestly don't know why this is even on the front page... It shouldn't surprise anyone that companies with thousands of low-paid roles are bound to sometimes end up with people which act unethically - we should be judging these companies based on how they deal with these employees, rather than the mere fact that these employees exist.

Low paid? The sales collected six figure salaries, they are paid more than Engineers.

Engineers average less than 6 figures in a major city like Chicago?

Re: Groupon sales rep threatens restaurant with negative Yelp reviews

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post #33

Isn't this a protection-money racket (extortion) from a legal perspective? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket > "Extortion is a criminal offense of unlawfully obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion." > "In the United States, extortion may also be committed as a federal crime across a computer system, phone, by m…

It might not be extortion, because one of the elements of extortion is coercion, and the sales rep's mail wasn't coercive, but instead spiteful. Had the rep instead said "maybe all this could be avoided if you would simply make the time to talk to me for 15 minutes on the phone tomorrow", it might be more cut-and-dry.

That is so strongly implied as to be pretty much obvious though.

Re: Groupon sales rep threatens restaurant with negative Yelp reviews

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This would be better titled "idiot gets himself fired (from Groupon)", since it's unlikely that Groupon has a policy of threatening their customers in writing, or much tolerance of employees who make it appear that they do. Incidentally, "As a resident of San Francisco for over 25 years" is code for "this is my first job out of college". Hopefully he'll be a little smarter by the time he finds his second.

It is not good to have this story come up for the rest of your life whenever someone googles your name...
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