iPhone 6: An edgy concept • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by lttlrck » Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 1:10 PM UTC

Bud wrote: post #45

mynameisvlad wrote: post #13

That Magsafe Lightning concept would never work. Not only is there not enough space to fit powerful enough magnets, not only is the Lightning connector 8-pin, but one of the only reasons MagSafe even works is that laptops are strong enough to still be in the same place if tugged slightly. Your phone will now not only be tugged along with the cord, but will then disconnect more easily and fly across the room.

This objection doesn't make any sense. The status quo is that if you tug on a Lightning cable, your phone will be tugged along with it, and will likely fall off the surface it is on. If you make it a MagSafe connector with appropriately weak holding force, and do the same thing, your phone will be tugged less hard, and will thus have less of a chance to fall off the surface it is on. It can't help but be an improveme…

The magnets do need to be strong enough to ensure a good electrical connection.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by nazgulnarsil » Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 1:16 PM UTC

slacka wrote: post #90

jotm wrote: post #44

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Seriously, why do you need 1920x1080? 1280x720 on a 5 inch display is great, even 960x540 on a 4.7 inch display (Optimus L9) still looks great, I just don't see the point unless you want to deplete your battery as fast as possible...

Yes, Enough with the PPI race. On a 4" or 5" display give me 720p and more battery life over 1080p. If the manufacturer does not opt for the top of the line GPU, games suffer too, since by doubling the resolution, you need to quadruple the pixels rendered. Apple made this mistake with the iPad 3 and iPhone 4, both which performed worse than their predecessors. This PPI race reminds me of the megapixel race in cameras…

please continue the PPI race so I can get an even more awesome Oculus Rift!

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by alan_cx » Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 1:24 PM UTC

It does look great, but Im not sure my hands and fingers would fare well if the edges got chipped. A chipped edge would not be enough to pay lots to get it fixed, where as a shattered screen is. As a result, I see minor injury being a bit of a problem.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by durkie » Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 1:39 PM UTC

vl wrote: post #100

durkie wrote: post #7

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I did my master's thesis on aluminum/carbon fiber composites and typically they mean infiltrating liquid aluminum through weaves of carbon fiber. But these materials are hard as hell to make. Carbon and aluminum do not get along for a variety of reasons, and aluminum/carbon composites remain a pie-in-the-sky concept. One of the ways they make Al/C composites now is through a process called squeeze casting, whereby th…

Well, then in this iPhone they should use carbon fiber titanium instead!

they would likely run in to similar problems. metal matrix composites in general are hard to make and underperform. i just know the most about al/c composites.

also, aluminum and titanium are already really strong and light. the author wanted to include carbon fiber because "it's perfectly rigid and doesn't bend" and that "scratches are a thing of the past". i appreciate that he wants a bit of far-out flourish for his new design, but both of those statements are way off the mark technically, and would be poor and wrong reasons to pursue difficult to make metal-matrix composites.

and let's not even get started on the graphene...

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by ksec » Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 1:40 PM UTC

I think the Calculation for Screen Size were off. ( Unless I am Wrong ) Assuming no changes in Resolution Scale to iPhone 5, a Display that is 5.86cm Width would be 4.7" Diagonal.

Which incidentally fits in with the latest rumours on 4.7" display. Um....

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by cseelus » Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 1:52 PM UTC

Wow, some of the reactions here are really petty-minded to me.

This guy just made mockups of a future iteration he imagined, of a product he probably uses and likes. Something designers have published to the interwebs for years. It can be fun and a nice way to improve on your skills.

It don't get what justifies the hate some people here show up with. If you don't like it, just skip it and enjoy something else.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by joesb » Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 2:00 PM UTC

arrrg wrote: post #68

sbierwagen wrote: post #53

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If this is an advertisement, then all it advertises is that he is incompetent at industrial design.

Yeah, well he is not an industrial designer, doesn’t advertise himself as one and doesn’t sell his industrial design skills. Which he doesn’t have. Doesn’t even claim to have. Not even a little bit. He is a fucking graphic designer and that’s exactly how you should judge this.

If he is a fucking graphic designer, then he should stop talking about technical details like graphene, as if he knew how it worked.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by joesb » Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 2:04 PM UTC

I like pure design concept, without regarding to technical limitation.

I like pure technology design concept without regarding to economical consideration.

This design is just plain form design plus some wanna-be technical terms.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by JohnDotAwesome » Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 3:33 PM UTC

This would be the coolest god damn phone. If Apple made the smaller form factor again with a slightly bigger screen, I'd be on that. I hate the wonky rectangle of the 5.

Thanks, Johnny. This stuff is fun to think about.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Post by ChuckMcM » Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 4:32 PM UTC

mayank wrote: post #99

ChuckMcM wrote: post #64

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Perhaps the response would be similar if he had a design for two headed baby clothes, or superhero outfits. There is this notion of the 'uncanny valley' where a rendering/expression of a human gets too close to the real thing. There is a similar space in design where dissonance between what is possible and what is shown jars the senses. Escher used this to great effect, creating scenes that you eyes initially perceiv…

You may be taking this a bit too literally. I saw it as a designer's attempt to build marketing for a fictional device that is fun to imagine. If you've ever read science fiction, there's a certain joy in imagining new devices with capabilities that currently seem impossible. Without this sort of imagination , like the tricorder that you point out, a whole lot of contemporary engineers might have never found this ins…

That is the nature of the uncanny valley, it is where the result is 'real enough' that one part of your brain classifies it as 'real' but it still has enough flaws that another part of your brain yells 'wrong'. That dissonance is uncomfortable.

Per my point about a tri-corder (a clearly fictional device) had he made his project "more clearly fictional" it would have avoided that uncanny valley. Basing it on the iPhone was not a good choice for me. A friend of mine was doing the computer graphics thing and initially all of his "models" were real actresses (he used stills from films to figure out the models) and it was hurting his portfolio because the 'goodness' of his modelling skills was being subverted by the 'wrongness' of the model (people recognized the actress and then saw things "wrong" in the models of them). I suspect that is the case here is well.