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Re: How I have lost over 100 pounds and don’t know how

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Interesting post, the author can be proud. Not being from the united states, and now living there since one year , here is my 2 cent , I think these are the most important points of the post and my own advices: - Drink water only, no soda, even diet coke and whatnot. - Avoid sugars (I'd say especially high corn fructose syrup). - Eat vegetables, cooked in good olive oil in a pan, it's really good. I don't know about…

> no soda, even diet coke and whatnot.

Why?, there are a lot of diet sodas that do not contain any calories.

> Avoid too salty food (preprocessed food will be too salty.)

Why, salt doesn't contain any calories.

Going on a diet is very hard in the first place, giving up these two things doesn't seem to make much sense. It will only make a difficult lifestyle change even more difficult.

Re: How I have lost over 100 pounds and don’t know how

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Figured I might as well take advantage of this thread to ask the opposite question: what is the best way to gain weight?

I stopped gaining weight at around 17 and have weighed 120 since. I wish I could eat more but I am just not that hungry every day, it's hard getting in my 3 meals.

Re: How I have lost over 100 pounds and don’t know how

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You stand behind the I/O issue and then later admit to benefitting from fasting techniques which are most likely affecting your insulin cycle, which is the purpose of a low carb diet. Atkins dieters experience positive results due to calorie restriction When you're on a low carb diet, your carb cravings are reduced or go away. You tend to eat less. It seems like you wanted to be snarky about the analogy I made but yo…

Maybe I didn't understand it, you tell me. You're suggesting (with scoff) that driving fewer miles will naturally reduce risk of accident, so by putting less gas in the car you'll force yourself to drive fewer miles. So you tell me what I'm missing there. Because as interpreted that's a pretty poor analogy. More importantly, I'm not trying to be a critic on your writing style, which is why I have 1 sentence about the…

From what you've posted in this thread, I gather that you have not taken the time to understand insulin, what it is, and how low carb diets affect insulin, carbohydrate cravings and cell metabolism.

First link briefly covers the insulin response second link is general information regarding insulin.

http://www.spinalhealth.net/insulin.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin

See the Gary Taube youtube link elsewhere in this thread for a great deal more information.

mountains of contradictory research

Not really. There's mountains of research and then public policy officials and non-scientist nutritionists that have let the food industry provide guidelines and cheap foods that aren't really good for us.

As Gary Taube points out in the video link, the science is old news. The puzzling thing is why the science has been ignored for so long.

Re: How I have lost over 100 pounds and don’t know how

#124
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There's a massive signal-to-noise issue in the fitness world, particularly because there's so much value to be made just by making some noise. For anyone reading this post and inspired to lose weight, I recommend you keep the following basic tenets in mind when researching a plan/regimen: 1. You lose weight by eating less calories than your body uses. (As a corollary, you almost definitely consume more calories than…

Keto is not a "fad diet" and is not about eating lots of fats. The core of what it's about is recognizing fat is not bad for you, and that the 3 main legs of what we eat are carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Reduce the amount of carbs to a minimum and make up for it with increased protein and fats.

Keto is backed up by a ton of science and real-world success. Just visit the keto subreddit and spend a few hours perusing, http://reddit.com/r/keto.

Re: How I have lost over 100 pounds and don’t know how

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ctrl+f "gluten" and "paleo" yup, circle jerk is on.

I'm sorry to be negative but it seems such a fad people convince themselves and others gluten is equivalent to cyanide. We've been through the Atkins junk he even died from it. I know people with Celiac and it's a daily struggle it's not a trendy disease if you actually have it, you can't even have pepper since most commercial pepper is dusted with wheat flour.

Can't we all agree to valid nutritional information from independent double-blind studies nothing with "supports" or a pil helping your immune system (an extremely complex...you guess it a 'system' not one thing that can be affected by one molecule.)

I weight more now than I ever have and I know why it's because I started working shift work, stopped going to the gym, drank energy drinks and went to Starbucks daily. To get back to being healthy I reverse what I did wrong so back to eating buckets of gluten and carbs but be active.

I'm all for health and good nutrition but these days it seems like nothing is good unless it's some extreme diet. US and Canada beverages are extreme, food portions are extreme, exercise is extreme (bootcamps jogging? bah!), vehicles are extreme now diets are extreme.

Re: How I have lost over 100 pounds and don’t know how

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“Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food” ― Hippocrates

As for myself, I don't know whom to trust anymore, but there are a few common themes: - varied diet is better - raw food (not processed) is better. You haven't evolved eating processed food. - use very little or no sugar. It's related to be above, really - humans used to be unable to get so much sugar.

Re: How I have lost over 100 pounds and don’t know how

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> Within two weeks I lost ~20 pounds. More than a pound a day, I can almost not believe this. In pure fat that would be about 5000kcal a day.

Depends where you start from. If guy starts from 300 lbs, it's not a biggie to lose that much "water weight". I started from ~170 lbs, lost ~5 lbs in first month, but it took me five more months to lose 20 more lbs.

Re: How I have lost over 100 pounds and don’t know how

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post #32

There's a massive signal-to-noise issue in the fitness world, particularly because there's so much value to be made just by making some noise. For anyone reading this post and inspired to lose weight, I recommend you keep the following basic tenets in mind when researching a plan/regimen: 1. You lose weight by eating less calories than your body uses. (As a corollary, you almost definitely consume more calories than…

Imagine that you are not only releasing energy on the body. You are not using heat, like in a thermal motor.

You need a specific chain reaction for getting the molecules you could use to move your body, mainly this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine_triphosphate

You need to make the molecules that make this reaction possible, for every sugar, fat or protein, it is different. Those supplies you need to fabricate or get in your food. Some are very common(inexpensive), some are not. E.g you will need oligoelements, or vitamins.

Not only that, but those substances need to be able to share the same space, not react with other substances, or being toxic to other parts of the cell. Some of them are and need other substances to carry them safely.

You also need other substances to carry them around. Some of them have water affinity, some not.

The output of the reactions also need to be non toxic and some of the are over certain concentration. Some sugars output metabolic reactions produce toxic materials. At high rates you need your body to protect the arteries from acidic conditions with cholesterol layers and so on.

Also what you need to fabricate has a delay. You can't fabricate your supplies instantly, so you have a control system, normally a series of PID controllers(we copied them from nature) to decide how much to fabricate given your normal diet.

So if you eat pizza every single day and caramelize all the sugars, and denaturalize the proteins , like you do at 200C plus, your body will get used to it.

There are fads, but there is also scientific knowledge people ignore. It is frustrating that people that ignore so much try to give advice to others.

You see medicine doctors talk in 2013 about calories, they have knowledge in some areas but are ignorant in others, mainly chemistry and biochemistry, they won't admit that.

Re: How I have lost over 100 pounds and don’t know how

#129
post #32

There's a massive signal-to-noise issue in the fitness world, particularly because there's so much value to be made just by making some noise. For anyone reading this post and inspired to lose weight, I recommend you keep the following basic tenets in mind when researching a plan/regimen: 1. You lose weight by eating less calories than your body uses. (As a corollary, you almost definitely consume more calories than…

> 1. You lose weight by eating less calories than your body uses. (As a corollary, you almost definitely consume more calories than you think you do. Get a calorie-counting app.)

I see this all the time on HN and like most things, there is truth in it, but it doesn't tell the whole story.

First and foremost, calories matter. Let's get that out of the way. They matter in that, yes, weight gain comes from eating calories in excess, loss from a deficit...normally (we'll get to that in a minute).

However, this is where everyone should be reading the rest very carefully, details matter here.

For one, if the ONLY thing you care about is number on the scale, eat at a deficit and you'll lose weight.

BUT, if you care about the type of weight you are losing (ie. losing fat vs fat/muscle vs muscle), you HAVE to care about the macronutrient ratios of those calories. For instance, I'm an athlete, recreational bodybuilder/powerlifter and fitness model. I work very, very hard for muscle gains. I don't want to lose muscle when I diet down for a show, competition or photo shoot. If I only cared about calories, I would QUICKLY catabolize my muscle. I need to keep my protein high, fat pretty high and the rest of my calories can come from carbs. In practice, depending on my goal at the time, I implement one of a variety of PSMF (protein sparring modified fast) & CKD (cyclic keto diet, which is Keto with carb refeeds) or TKD (targeted keto diet, which is eating carbs around workouts).

The problem with "just care about calories" is that very few people actually want that as the goal. Most people want to lose FAT, not muscle when they lose weight. If all you understand is calories, yes you'll lose weight, but you'll be losing fat and muscle. Most people, and I would guess everyone reading this, would rather keep whatever muscle they have, they need to understand how to SPARE their muscle when losing weight.

And if someone is overweight there is a very high chance they are or are becoming insulin resistant. If this is the case, Keto is actually appropriate for them.

Before I got into this world seriously, I just thought it was calories, like most people who haven't spent the time to understand the workings of the body. I literally wasted years trying to get lean with just a calories approach. It doesn't work that way.

Re: How I have lost over 100 pounds and don’t know how

#130
post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I didn't understand it, you tell me. You're suggesting (with scoff) that driving fewer miles will naturally reduce risk of accident, so by putting less gas in the car you'll force yourself to drive fewer miles. So you tell me what I'm missing there. Because as interpreted that's a pretty poor analogy. More importantly, I'm not trying to be a critic on your writing style, which is why I have 1 sentence about the…

From what you've posted in this thread, I gather that you have not taken the time to understand insulin, what it is, and how low carb diets affect insulin, carbohydrate cravings and cell metabolism. First link briefly covers the insulin response second link is general information regarding insulin. http://www.spinalhealth.net/insulin.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin See the Gary Taube youtube link elsewhere…

And from what you've posted in the thread, I gather you believe nutrition and weight gain or loss can be explained in the micro sense by individual things like insulin. Most of what I know about sugar, simple carbs in general, and insulin is what I learned from the just-OK book http://www.amazon.com/Sugar-Blues-William-Dufty/dp/044634312...

But most of what I've learned about weight gain/loss and nutrition I've learned from books and research that look at the subject from a macro level.

The summation of everything I've read on the subject -- and I read a lot through my year long experience of losing weigh and changing almost entirely how I thought about food -- and my own experiences make me believe firmly that this is primarily an I/O issue.

And as much as you say "the science is settled and I am right" it's contradicted by a lot of smart people who study this and admit essentially 'the science of nutrition is immature and in many times conclusions are contradictory.' The most recent time I heard that was just last week in the same Pollan NPR interview I mentioned elsewhere. (Though i think this was a re-broadcast, not sure the original broadcast date)

To be clear, here's my take:

1. Primarily an I/O issue. Everything else is a distant 2nd place.

2. How much of the equation is I/O? I don't know. 75%? 50%? It's not the whole story, though, I don't think. Our bodies are adaptive and complex.

3. There are no silver bullets and anybody peddling one is probably wrong (not to say they are entirely without merit.)

4. Nutrition is a science that is not nearly as well understood as most people think.

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