Live data from Hacker News

Illegally climbing the Golden Gate bridge at dawn (2011)

nopromiseofsafety.com

121–127 of 127 posts

Re: Illegally climbing the Golden Gate bridge at dawn (2011)

#121
post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How could he have been more specific that he was using an adequate safety device? Were you expecting him to include the brand?

A snapshot of his setup would have been nice. Not so much for the gear Nazis, but to keep gear on the radar for readers who decide to try this themselves.

unlike the total lack of gear shown in this photo https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5209/5315871803_95f74f1027_b... ?

Re: Illegally climbing the Golden Gate bridge at dawn (2011)

#122
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've only been there once, but I'm picking that harsh weather, height and the need for attachment points outside the existing bridge make it expensive. I'm not at all surprised that it is expensive, but I am that it hasn't been done yet.

A primary complaint, believe it or not, is that the net would hurt the aesthetics of the bridge. People have been pushing for a net for years, but a variety of (lame) excuses keep conspiring against it. The reality is that there's no really good reason to keep from doing it...just a lot of little bad ones that seem to win.

I don't feel like "45 million dollars is too much to spend on a device to save the lives of people who are doing everything in their power to die" is a lame excuse, but whatever.

Re: Illegally climbing the Golden Gate bridge at dawn (2011)

#123
post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about "it's not society's job to keep people (even insane ones) from doing what they want with their own bodies"? You can take this to apply to everything from the inside of one's uterus to hurling oneself off a bridge.

It is societies job to look after everyone, especially the unwell. I do recall there being a handrail, so someone believes in some safety.

Handrails are to prevent accidents by people not trying to hurl themselves off.

You are confusing safety with coercion.

Re: Illegally climbing the Golden Gate bridge at dawn (2011)

#124
post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is societies job to look after everyone, especially the unwell. I do recall there being a handrail, so someone believes in some safety.

Handrails are to prevent accidents by people not trying to hurl themselves off. You are confusing safety with coercion.

I get your first statement, however If someone falls off due to poor sight/bad knees/inner ear problems or someone jumps off due to a temporary depressive illness, I see little difference. All relate to medical problems. It's not that I'm rabidly anti suicide - I am pro suicide rights - but I'd hardly call a net coercion. Can you explain this for me? Grafton Bridge in Auckland has put up Perspex screens for suicide prevention (and the safely of those under the bridge) instead of nets. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafton_Bridge

Re: Illegally climbing the Golden Gate bridge at dawn (2011)

#125
post #114
post #40

I have been BASE jumping for quite a while and within that community there is a strong thread of leave no trace. It reduces the legal risk, eliminates property damage, and keeps it open for everyone else. Back to Joe, I found his blog and saw a picture of him setting off fireworks on top of a crane I had just climbed and jumped in the city I used to live. I kept thinking the increased security probably should have le…

WTF was he arrested for?!

Defacing public cones... The guy wasn't exactly PAYING for the orange cones he was using.

Consider if every road project has to pay an extra $1000 for lost cones it becomes a police problem quickly and they crack the whip hard.

Re: Illegally climbing the Golden Gate bridge at dawn (2011)

#126
post #115

I caught myself wondering why climbing the bridge has to be illegal . You can't practically damage the bridge. You will mostly just hurt yourself if something happens. Theoretically the worst that could happen is you could fall onto a car but the damages incurred by a dead climber would be peanuts for any insurance company — people crash their cars by themselves alone all the time. And that could already happen becau…

Because if the general public was doing it 50% or better would be squished. Public employees have to clean your guts up off the pavement each time it happens. It's not "victimless" after the same old guy has scrapped 30 people off the bridge and has mental health issues.

Re: Illegally climbing the Golden Gate bridge at dawn (2011)

#127
post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about "it's not society's job to keep people (even insane ones) from doing what they want with their own bodies"? You can take this to apply to everything from the inside of one's uterus to hurling oneself off a bridge.

It is societies job to look after everyone, especially the unwell. I do recall there being a handrail, so someone believes in some safety.

I feel like if we are building a net to catch people trying to commit suicide, we are "looking after everyone" the complete wrong way, not to mention way too late.
Post reply on HN