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Re: Skype backdoor confirmation

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Or maybe the client forwards the URL to a Microsoft service which accesses it.

If it did this, then it can forward the chat conversation as well

Exactly... ..for those who didn't get it yet, that's the main point in all this worrying about the presence of a backdoor in Skype.

Re: Skype backdoor confirmation

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Has anyone developed a user friendly encryption layer that works on top of Skype? PGP or otherwise. Skype is useful, and it would be nice to have the option to use it for private conversations.

Re: Skype backdoor confirmation

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Checking URLs passed in messages isn't incompatible with secure communication. It's easy enough to look at a text message that's going to be sent and break it into parts (URL and non-URL). Encrypt point-to-point the non-URL parts, and encrypt the URL parts such that the central servers can read them (and verify that they're not pointing to bad stuff, which is a very valuable service to provide to the vast number of r…

Actually, being able to tell anything about a message is incompatible with secure communications. Even the fact that there's a URL in there is more than I want you to know. It's all it would have taken to get shot in Iran in 2009.

There's a good way to do this though - give the users a local URL classifier and push updates to it. Then the client software is free to block dangerous URLs by default without hurting anyone's privacy. This works, and is used by many AV companies.

In fact, because of the way the system is centralized they could be sure the updates would reach users before another message did - providing the same level of safety as scanning the users' messages for them.

Re: Skype backdoor confirmation

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I tried testing sending a private link to my server to one of my friends over Skype after reading the first Heise article. To get a response from Skype, I contacted them. I think you might find the following very interesting:

"You are correct, Skype chats and conversations are encrypted. Your chat can only be read when you sign in using your Skype name and password. Not even Skype or Microsoft has access to your chat history. "

You can see the full transcript here: http://pastebin.com/bbiSWtrz

Re: Skype backdoor confirmation

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Checking URLs passed in messages isn't incompatible with secure communication. It's easy enough to look at a text message that's going to be sent and break it into parts (URL and non-URL). Encrypt point-to-point the non-URL parts, and encrypt the URL parts such that the central servers can read them (and verify that they're not pointing to bad stuff, which is a very valuable service to provide to the vast number of r…

"Checking URLs passed in messages isn't incompatible with secure communication" I guess that depends on your definition of "security," and perhaps of "practicality." Where I'm from (i.e. a grad student whose research is on practical secure multiparty computation), a practical system for checking URLs in a privacy-preserving fashion is still very much a research topic. "It's easy enough to look at a text message that'…

I'm not arguing that the communications stay theoretically secure. If there's any processing going on, they clearly don't. What I'm saying is that you break the message up into risk and non-risky parts, and the risky parts (URLs) can be treated differently. That different treatment is very valuable to the vast majority of users that don't care about complete security, but do care about having their systems compromised.

Which "betrayal" is worse -- Skype being able to look at messages, or compromised systems?

In terms of implementation, it's interesting to think about the design space.

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