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Re: GitHub donates private repositories to women learning open source software

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That last paragraph is exactly the reason i hate this sexist talks, it doesn't matter if its the boys or girls that are complaining.. I don't know if that's the case in the place you are living right now but, if you think that being a boy or a girl its an advantage then you are part of that problem.. Boys will always be boys, ignore them and move on.

If you can't recognize that men have a vast amount of privilege compared to women, then I don't really know what to say. Last year a man named Geordie Tait posted an article called "To My Someday Daughter"[1]. It's quite long, but definitely worth reading. The context is gaming, but the central thesis is sexism. One quote from the article that really opened my eyes to how radically different men and women view the wo…

Gender problems depends a lot on where are you living.

That's not the case where i live in, why? because we do not care about such things, treat woman and man the same way. unlike the old american racism, in modern countries there are no laws that discriminate girls.. why should we teach our daughters to fight for something that's not a problem?

Education is all we need, why should they hide their code? they should be proud of it

Re: GitHub donates private repositories to women learning open source software

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IANAW, but this almost seems sexist in and of itself. Is Github shielding the delicate female programmers from the merciless wrath of internet trolls? I guess the assumption is that big strong male programmers don't need this kind of coddling.

How do you prove that you're a woman? Also, does a transwoman count?

Ada accepts all those who identify as female. Any trans-gender or female-identifying person should feel safe applying here. (I'm not in anyway affiliated with Ada, just checked their website).

Re: GitHub donates private repositories to women learning open source software

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Yes, I too am offended that an organization would dare donate anything to the Ada Initiative. Since we obviously live in a post-sexist egalitarian society, any sort of donation to one organization is clearly discriminatory against those not part of or benefitting from the organization! I'm pretty damn sure GitHub can't affect the salaries of women that aren't direct employees of them. In what way does GitHub doing wh…

Agreed with you about the donations. Tangentially, it would be cool if GitHub had more diversity in their software engineering staff - that is something they have control over.

A really good way to increase the diversity of your staff is to encourage education for minority groups.

Re: GitHub donates private repositories to women learning open source software

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How do female programmers differ from male programmers? I find this offensive. There are better ways to help promote programming among women. Equal salaries for starters could be a real equaliser.

What are the data about salary balance between male and female programmers doing the same job / same team? I wonder if anyone has any research, data, or links. (And please no one post that tired old $0.73 number that is averaged over all jobs, all roles, all hours-per-week!)

It is estimated that 9-12% of programmers are women. I don't have any figures on salaries but most of us don't get to be CEO unless you start your own business.

Re: GitHub donates private repositories to women learning open source software

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For those crying sexism, go take a look at the amount of women in the business, now THAT's what sexism looks like.

Go take a look at the amount of men in the business of midwifing, it's even worse. Is there anything that prevent a men to work in this field ? I know a guy who did, so I can tell you: Nothing. If we lack of women in CS it's mostly because women themselves thinks it's not attractive, just like they don't see trucker, or construction worker as attractive jobs. For the same reason teaching, widwifing, etc lack of mens.…

Nursing and other non-doctoral programs work hard to increase the numbers of men. It is never seen as reverse sexism in these cases.

Re: GitHub donates private repositories to women learning open source software

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And here's my answer: Are you a girl? We are on the internet, I can't see you, I have no idea who you are.

Why does that matter? EDIT: Oh, do you mean that women should hide the fact that they are women online when contributing to OSS? I imagine many do.

Yes, they do. Or use gender-neutral names or non-de-plumes.

Re: GitHub donates private repositories to women learning open source software

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I think you're missing the point.

I think github's missing the point. To encourage a group to do open source we provide them with private repositories? I get how this group may feel hesitant to post something in the open source world, but so was I, and I'm a guy. Here's an analogy that maybe fits: Consider you meet someone that's afraid of flying. Do you say "come with me, I'll show you its safe" or do you say "here's a bunch of train and bus passes"

Writing code in an open source environment can be extremely intimidating. There is an unfortunate element of elitism around writing code and this can be very off putting for many people. Being able to code, learn, and get criticism in the privacy of a private repository is a big step toward open sourcing your code

Re: GitHub donates private repositories to women learning open source software

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That last paragraph is exactly the reason i hate this sexist talks, it doesn't matter if its the boys or girls that are complaining.. I don't know if that's the case in the place you are living right now but, if you think that being a boy or a girl its an advantage then you are part of that problem.. Boys will always be boys, ignore them and move on.

No, you got it wrong. >if you think that being a boy or a girl its an advantage then you are part of that problem Unwillingness to recognize that women are at a disadvantage due to long-term social mores is part of the problem. "Boys will always be boys, ignore them and move on?" You really don't get it, do you? Every little comment, snide remark, finger pointing... Words are sharp, they cut deep. In the end, it's th…

Like i said before.. this is not a world wide social problem, my college was almost half boys, half girls. The highest grade was a girl, why? not because she was a girl.. but because she was freaking smart.

Its like african americans complaining about racism, i don't get it.. they are the coolest thing on earth right now!! Ignore that uneducated minority and move on.

Re: GitHub donates private repositories to women learning open source software

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post #109

The fact that they partnered with the destructive and notorious Ada Initiative is disappointing. They are little more than concern-trolls, and they are doing far more to hinder equality than promote it. GitHub is full of great people and poor choices like this are incongruent. PS: This isn't male privilege speaking - The Ada Initiative is disliked (for very good reason) by feminists of both genders.

Do substantiate.

Re: GitHub donates private repositories to women learning open source software

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post #121

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If you can't recognize that men have a vast amount of privilege compared to women, then I don't really know what to say. Last year a man named Geordie Tait posted an article called "To My Someday Daughter"[1]. It's quite long, but definitely worth reading. The context is gaming, but the central thesis is sexism. One quote from the article that really opened my eyes to how radically different men and women view the wo…

Gender problems depends a lot on where are you living. That's not the case where i live in, why? because we do not care about such things, treat woman and man the same way. unlike the old american racism, in modern countries there are no laws that discriminate girls.. why should we teach our daughters to fight for something that's not a problem? Education is all we need, why should they hide their code? they should b…

Where do you live? I have an extremely hard time believing that there is no gender inequality where you live. Far more likely is simply that you're blind to the inequality, having grown up immersed in male privilege.
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