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"Holy Cow" - confirmed, we have a Utahn here.
Ha ha... I'm not your typical "Oh my heck" Utahn though—I do drop the hard swears when appropriate, just not online.
I can see how buying fiber networks like this helps their implementation strategy, but Provo where? I've literally never heard of this town. I'm wondering if these Google Fiber experiments wouldn't be more impactful if they weren't in big cities. KC and Austin are good choices with solid tech centers to see innovation from high network speeds, but Provo, Utah? Really?
Provo, Madison, Boulder seem like pretty ideal candidates for this kind of thing -- techie, fairly small (well, Boulder is borderline), relatively sane local government, good potential takeup. KC actually seems like the outlier, due to size and a larger range of incomes/education. Bellevue, WA might work, too, or college towns like Blacksburg, Pasadena, Cambridge, Urbana-Champaign, and near some of the National Labs.…
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Provo, Madison, Boulder seem like pretty ideal candidates for this kind of thing -- techie, fairly small (well, Boulder is borderline), relatively sane local government, good potential takeup. KC actually seems like the outlier, due to size and a larger range of incomes/education. Bellevue, WA might work, too, or college towns like Blacksburg, Pasadena, Cambridge, Urbana-Champaign, and near some of the National Labs.…
Bellevue, WA would be... interesting, but would be a far easier incremental step than Seattle.
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The city has been looking to get out of the financial obligations from iProvo for a while, it'd have to end up being a really bad deal for them to say no to this.
It is a really bad deal because it eliminates municipal ownership of the infrastructure that would facilitate competition. Instead they are installing a new monopolist which will only seem to improve things in the short term.
Perhaps some ongoing service level agreements (that perhaps even iProvo couldn't provide) for the constituents/customers are part of deal?
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The city has been looking to get out of the financial obligations from iProvo for a while, it'd have to end up being a really bad deal for them to say no to this.
It is a really bad deal because it eliminates municipal ownership of the infrastructure that would facilitate competition. Instead they are installing a new monopolist which will only seem to improve things in the short term.
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Don't see that on the linked page ; you might be looking at the info for Topeka, where they don't already have the fiber laid. Your parent is talking about the provo specific page that the article actually links to, where it very clearly says that it's a $30 activation fee for homes already on iProvo .
When I go to that link, I go to the home page for Google Fiber, not the Provo specific page, after clicking through to the Provo specific page I do indeed see the $30 one time fee.
https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/Good god I hope these announcements light a fire under the butts of the other US providers.
In non-Fiber cities, has anyone seen a change in price from the big providers like Time Warner Cable? Anecdotally, I haven't seen one.
http://consumerist.com/2013/01/30/time-warner-boosts-my-spee...
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Ha ha... I'm not your typical "Oh my heck" Utahn though—I do drop the hard swears when appropriate, just not online.
It's ok man, I've got your back. I'm the OP of this submission and I'm from Lehi of all places. :)
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My 2mbps internet connection and I envy all of you.
My last apartment had <1mbps with AT&T. I was working remotely for a company that required VPN+VNC into a linux server on their intranet to get anything done. Any time my roommates tried to watch something on hulu/netflix (frequently), our router had to be rebooted.
Holy cow that's great! I sure hope that means they can easily expand to Salt Lake City (about 50 miles North of there—and where I am) after building the infrastructure there. There is already a fiber ISP in the area called Utopia who are in cities near here, but have been disallowed into the bigger cities (Provo and Salt Lake) apparently due to lobbying by the Qwest / CenturyLink and Comcast ISPs. I wonder if this an…
You don't need any conspiracy to explain why it didn't come to every city in the area. There were huge bonds associated with UTOPIA membership that the city counsels were afraid of. How UTOPIA has played out shows the cities that opted-out made the right decision. It's been a financial disaster (and I say this as a consumer who had high hopes for it).
Just a couple links I quickly Googled can explain in more detail how bad UTOPIA's finances are:
http://www.dailywireless.org/2012/08/07/utopia-financial-aud... http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/54928063-79/utopia-networ...
UTOPIAs pitch to the cities was based in subscription rates absolutely divorced from reality. I can't believe they got any cities on board.
I'm holding out hope that maybe Google just buys up UTOPIA like they did with iProvo and turns it into Google Fiber and then just extends it throughout the entire valley. I don't know if UTOPIA could actually be sold like that though.