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Re: My Startup Failed. Fuck.

#121

If there's a common thread between endless startup failure stories, then it is "we talked to a bunch of people who said they'd spend money on this" and when push came to shove said people didn't actually spend money. We're not failing, but even from a (modestly) successful startup perspective, the vast gulf between "people who like to talk to you as if they will spend real money" and "people who will actually spend m…

This story seems more like "If we build it, they will come."

Re: My Startup Failed. Fuck.

#122
Definitely a great learning experience. I myself had my own business. Made enough to live comfortably, but in the end, the IRS made me pay back every red cent in back taxes, and then some when it came to a screeching halt.

Re: My Startup Failed. Fuck.

#123
Man, I feel your pain. I have developed the most awesome products the world has never seen 4 times now. We had a "build it and they will come" attitude too :(

We decided to ask ourselves one question: How to we validate an idea before wasting months on an idea that only we seem to think is cool?

So we are creating WillThisFly? to ask that very question... it's a site that allows you to try out your ideas and projects, get feedback and refine them before committing resources to it.

Shameless plug: http://willthisfly.net (Just launched last night)

Only thing on there at the moment is WTF? itself.

All I can say is, it has happened to probably everyone at one stage in their startup career... don't give up, refine your ideas, create MVP's and keep trying...

Re: My Startup Failed. Fuck.

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post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of these things I DO agree with. And yes, we are young. We might not use the word "shit" on our homepage next time. But Hell, I used the word "fuck" on the title of this article, and it sure turned alot of heads.

I was referring to the dig at Christians. Not the vulgarity.

Sorry if you took my comment as a dig at Christians, I was merely stating an observation based on the data we collected. I personally encountered a handful of Christian musicians who stated our use of vulgarity and drug references were the reason they were not interested in our product. For example, we also had some female musicians who were not excited about our video because it was geared towards guys. not a dig at female musicians

Re: My Startup Failed. Fuck.

#125

If there's a common thread between endless startup failure stories, then it is "we talked to a bunch of people who said they'd spend money on this" and when push came to shove said people didn't actually spend money. We're not failing, but even from a (modestly) successful startup perspective, the vast gulf between "people who like to talk to you as if they will spend real money" and "people who will actually spend m…

I like to live by the motto: You never know if someone is willing to pay until you ask them to open their checkbook. The same theory can be applied to most investors. (pre-handshake protocol at least)

So then... is Kickstarter the only true way to validate a startup idea?

You throw up a cool pitch with some videos and vague promises, and watch the cash roll in. If the cash does indeed roll in, then it's a good idea!

Then you get to work, and hope no one remembers in 6 months that you promised to deliver them some amazing gifts. :-)

Re: My Startup Failed. Fuck.

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post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like to live by the motto: You never know if someone is willing to pay until you ask them to open their checkbook. The same theory can be applied to most investors. (pre-handshake protocol at least)

So then... is Kickstarter the only true way to validate a startup idea? You throw up a cool pitch with some videos and vague promises, and watch the cash roll in. If the cash does indeed roll in, then it's a good idea! Then you get to work, and hope no one remembers in 6 months that you promised to deliver them some amazing gifts. :-)

PPC + Landing page works wonders.

Avoid the confirmation bias of your peers, and target people actively looking for your idea.

Build a fake checkout that collects no data, and thank your 'paying' users for signing up to be notified when X goes on sale.

(You should also probably tell them that no financial information was actually stored.)

Re: My Startup Failed. Fuck.

#127
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Reading about failures can be more illuminating and educational than reading about success. It's interesting to see how you reached a number of gateways where you could have terminated but instead continued to pursue your goals/dreams (despite going against what many would consider the logical conclusion to close). I wonder how many other business have adopted that strategy (of ignoring initial reduced interest in yo…

Definite commendation for even giving it a go.

Remember the famous maxim: "I failed a thousand times but each one brought me a step closer to stealing what I needed from Tesla"

Re: My Startup Failed. Fuck.

#128
post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So then... is Kickstarter the only true way to validate a startup idea? You throw up a cool pitch with some videos and vague promises, and watch the cash roll in. If the cash does indeed roll in, then it's a good idea! Then you get to work, and hope no one remembers in 6 months that you promised to deliver them some amazing gifts. :-)

PPC + Landing page works wonders. Avoid the confirmation bias of your peers, and target people actively looking for your idea. Build a fake checkout that collects no data, and thank your 'paying' users for signing up to be notified when X goes on sale. (You should also probably tell them that no financial information was actually stored.)

I'm sure this works for things which you might buy having only see the website (and maybe a few screenshots) but beyond a certain level of cost/complexity you actually need to have some real software for them to try before they'll pay.

Re: My Startup Failed. Fuck.

#129
post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So then... is Kickstarter the only true way to validate a startup idea? You throw up a cool pitch with some videos and vague promises, and watch the cash roll in. If the cash does indeed roll in, then it's a good idea! Then you get to work, and hope no one remembers in 6 months that you promised to deliver them some amazing gifts. :-)

PPC + Landing page works wonders. Avoid the confirmation bias of your peers, and target people actively looking for your idea. Build a fake checkout that collects no data, and thank your 'paying' users for signing up to be notified when X goes on sale. (You should also probably tell them that no financial information was actually stored.)

I never been on such a website, but doesn't this make people angry? Or is the trick to do it also withe fake product and company name, so that you know it would work, but noone can hate you afterwards for lie to him?

Kickstarter seems like a better approach, since everyone KNOWS there is no product to buy.

Re: My Startup Failed. Fuck.

#130
post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PPC + Landing page works wonders. Avoid the confirmation bias of your peers, and target people actively looking for your idea. Build a fake checkout that collects no data, and thank your 'paying' users for signing up to be notified when X goes on sale. (You should also probably tell them that no financial information was actually stored.)

I never been on such a website, but doesn't this make people angry? Or is the trick to do it also withe fake product and company name, so that you know it would work, but noone can hate you afterwards for lie to him? Kickstarter seems like a better approach, since everyone KNOWS there is no product to buy.

I can't imagine being anything other than angry after filling out a payment form and then being told that there was no reason to have done that. On a new web application?
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