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IRC is dead, long live IRC

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Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

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##c is perhaps the most infamously caustic active channel on any IRC network today. Fun, if that's what you are into.

I figured it was just one guy who is so awful. It's more than one person?

To be honest I haven't been there for more than a year, but I remember it being a cumulative effect.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

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I work at google campus in london, an office for startups. Many weeks ago, somebody suggested on our yammer (business social network) that we should set up an irc channel for the people who work here. The general response was along the lines of 'that still exists?', 'hey, I heard windows 3.0 is being released', etc. Shame, because I find irc to still be the best chat I've ever used. Their response was also weird, sin…

Try getting them onboard with www.hipchat.com. Even tho I still use IRC at home we use hipchat at work, and it works pretty well. The ability to easily send screengrabs and similar stuff to other users is pretty handy.

Is this supposed to be a joke? Why in all seven hells would you use a proprietary, hosted service which brings you zero advantages over a time-tested, open and simple network protocol which you can extremely easily host and extend yourself?

I don't get you people. I really don't get you.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

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I've determined independently that a IRC server fills a sweet spot in the collaborative toolset. A basic IM system isn't good enough because it doesn't have channels, it doesn't give you a shared history. Email is heavy and induces people to spend too much time per message. Sometimes it's good to have a light/noisy feed, and IRC is just fine for that job.

> A basic IM system isn't good enough because it doesn't have channels, it doesn't give you a shared history. Your shared history vanishes when you're off the network though. Skype has channels, and preserves history, syncing your "rooms" when you log back in. If it were as easy to pipe machine data (syslog, notices, tweets?) into Skype as it is to pipe it into IRC, it'd be perfect.

Eh, that's pretty much what BNCs or tmux/screen is for. The number of hours that I haven't been connected to IRC in the past 10 years is probably low-double digits. (I'm on several networks so a network outage won't knock me off IRC entirely.)

Plus with IRC you have the assurance that it will never go away. Worse case scenario is you just write your own server and do it yourself. There is no RFC for skype though.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

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I have to go against the grain of my colleagues here. Our company uses IRC, and I hate it. Our small group, on the other hand, uses primairly Skype, and it works well for us. IRC fails for me for a few reasons. First, I have to set up a SSH tunnel to use it. It's inconvenient, doesn't always start & restart automatically, but it's required because we want our communications to be private, and we're a distributed comp…

I'm sorry to say this, but all issues you describe are instances of PEBKAC.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

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Today's new tech startups are run by people who missed the time window when IRC was popular. They grew up with web based chats and instant messengers.

Unless I'm old at 25: bullshit. The people who go "into tech" during college because they saw Mark Zuckerberg making dumptrucks full of money probably don't know what IRC is, but the people who had to get into IRC chats to figure out how to make linux work on our hardware (like me, and most of my peers) absolutely grew up with IRC. I grew up having friends that I met solely on IRC, and having it be a staple of the wa…

Yeah, I realized the other day that in a year or two I'll have been using IRC for half my life. Not adult life mind, my whole life. That would be impressive ...were I old.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

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Try getting them onboard with www.hipchat.com. Even tho I still use IRC at home we use hipchat at work, and it works pretty well. The ability to easily send screengrabs and similar stuff to other users is pretty handy.

Is this supposed to be a joke? Why in all seven hells would you use a proprietary, hosted service which brings you zero advantages over a time-tested, open and simple network protocol which you can extremely easily host and extend yourself? I don't get you people. I really don't get you.

I've just started writing it off as "Because startup!". There really are just some protocols that don't need to be reinvented as companies. Yeah, twitter is better than finger, but IRC has proven itself.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

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I'm maybe an exception since I am and have "always" been heavily involved in IRC, but IRC is still a central part of my life. My irssi session is connected to around 120 channels on 16-or-so networks right now. I've met my fianceé on IRC, got friends for life from all over the world through IRC, got jobs and assignments through IRC and I almost daily solve complex problems with the help of my community and network of…

I got my wife and my current job from IRC. Good to know I'm not the only one ;)

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

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I have to go against the grain of my colleagues here. Our company uses IRC, and I hate it. Our small group, on the other hand, uses primairly Skype, and it works well for us. IRC fails for me for a few reasons. First, I have to set up a SSH tunnel to use it. It's inconvenient, doesn't always start & restart automatically, but it's required because we want our communications to be private, and we're a distributed comp…

I'm sorry to say this, but all issues you describe are instances of PEBKAC.

Most of his issues barely even sound like that. He just chose a client he doesn't like.
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