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Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by tekacs »

Sn0wCoder wrote: post #70
Sherveen wrote: post #6

People keep asking for this w/ Codex, too, and I really regret that both labs seem inclined to listen. If you ask a thinking/research type question in 'Chat' versus 'Work' mode in these products -- say, something complex about politics, or do a multiturn business strategy, or want to work thru a new concept, you get very different answers. The harness, steering, etc. in the chat/reasoning products is so much better f…

I hope not Chat is still all you can eat and Work uses Codex tokens. I can see why they would want people to think they wanted this without thinking about how it currently works. If Chat starts eating tokens then there is not much reason to use Chat other than most people don't live in the command line like developers. Claude Chat / Cowork already eats tokens either way so not much of a change really. I have never us…

The OpenAI folks have been clear that they are merging them by the end of the year, obviously TBD what they do with quota.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by rgbrgb »

peterldowns wrote: post #118

How did this new account `vertigoruntime` get three posts on the front page, all in the last day? - This post - The DeepMind Institute https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49727659 - Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49723408 based on their account submission history they have a 25% hit rate (!) Seems very, very weird.

maybe someone wrote a classifier (or LLM wrapper) to find posts that will rank on hn

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by mikeocool »

idle_zealot wrote: post #49
royal__ wrote: post #8

These kinds of updates always have this romantic scenario of someone having Claude develop a presentation or something on their way to work between multiple devices, which actually feels a little sad and does not align with what happens in my life at all.

This is a nightmare scenario to me. "Claude, prepare me a presentation on XYZ." I get to work, go straight to the meeting room, and pull up what it made to present. It's barely coherent nonsense. Lots of irrelevant details, buzz words, wrong charts or confusing phrasing. Obviously LLM output. I read it out. When I'm done, I get a question about one of Claude's incorrectly inferred details. The shame instantly kills m…

Previously having a deck was basically a signal that said “I took some time to prepare for this meeting and put together some coherent talking points” even if the deck itself was just a bunch of of text outlining what the speaker was saying.

Now that people are generating decks with AI, they’re basically worthless. I don’t need a bunch of bullet points you didn’t take anytime to think about on the screen while you talk about something you didn’t prepare for.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by orliesaurus »

peterldowns wrote: post #118

How did this new account `vertigoruntime` get three posts on the front page, all in the last day? - This post - The DeepMind Institute https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49727659 - Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49723408 based on their account submission history they have a 25% hit rate (!) Seems very, very weird.

> putting my tinfoil hat on and awaiting for replies

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by ChickeNES »

MarkMarine wrote: post #45
tiffanyh wrote: post #4

I hope this doesn’t get confusing like ChatGPT made it. I feel like Claude has some of the best UX, and hope this doesn’t dilute the experience.

Claude has a jagged UX if you support non-devs. The surfaces before today in the desktop app were: Chat, cowork, Claude code. Inside Claude code you’ve got cloud environments and local. Let’s say as a normal desktop user you wanted to just automate something normal in your work, going to a website (maybe some internal app at your company) getting some data. Depending on what surface you used this will either not work…

Sounds like they need a "Claude for Normal People" and a "Claude for people who know how computers work" lol

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by MarkMarine »

tiffanyh wrote: post #53
MarkMarine wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude has a jagged UX if you support non-devs. The surfaces before today in the desktop app were: Chat, cowork, Claude code. Inside Claude code you’ve got cloud environments and local. Let’s say as a normal desktop user you wanted to just automate something normal in your work, going to a website (maybe some internal app at your company) getting some data. Depending on what surface you used this will either not work…

Do you think ChatGPT UX is better (after they merged everything recently)? Genuinely curious.

For me it’s still jagged, but chatgpt never had the weird “cowork” abstraction with the Linux machine.

I don’t talk to non-technical users that use the chatGPT app for work so I’m not sure if that’s been a positive change for them, but I would imagine if that was put in place for Claude it would be better for them. Chat is instant answers, different model, faster; work is more detailed, thinks more, has access to all the tools. This is what I see the users doing, but there is a third mode they use (deep research, exhaustively find me the right answer to a crucial question) that is underserved right now.

All of this is moot to me as a dev, I use terminal, herdr, pi… so I don’t see the jagged edges myself. But regular users do

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by [deleted] »

peterldowns wrote: post #118

How did this new account `vertigoruntime` get three posts on the front page, all in the last day? - This post - The DeepMind Institute https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49727659 - Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49723408 based on their account submission history they have a 25% hit rate (!) Seems very, very weird.

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Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

drivebyhooting wrote: post #84
yieldcrv wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before OpenAI dropped ChatGPT, nobody knew chat would be such a hit. Several labs had versions of these things, Google engineers were getting finessed by a rudimentary model just like in the movie Ex Machina that came out 10 years prior which was satirizing Google But I don't agree that they aren't product-ized. There are many applications doing calls to LLMs behind the scenes and are hits, leveraging structured data…

Can you give examples of wrapped LLM logic? API calls are expensive and slow, so I’ve shied away from integrating them into my personal projects. And of course there’s always the risk of hallucination.

For converting unstructured data into (more) structured data, they're phenomenal.

Yes, they are expensive, but flexibility has a lot of value.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by nwhnwh »

peterldowns wrote: post #118

How did this new account `vertigoruntime` get three posts on the front page, all in the last day? - This post - The DeepMind Institute https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49727659 - Mistral X Mozilla: Private, Multilingual AI Browsing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49723408 based on their account submission history they have a 25% hit rate (!) Seems very, very weird.

You can make your post on top in some services by paying 5 dollars on fiver. I asked before about HN, and someone said it is hard to do... Maybe they found a way?
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