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Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

80% are bots, 10% trolls, and 5% foreign agents. I’ll take Bluesky over that every day.

Why would bots be limited to twitter? Wouldn't Bluesky be just as susceptiblle. I stopped using Bluesky because I was seeing too many people celebrating the misfortune of others. I didn't have that on twitter, I know people were on the platform behaving like that, but it didn't seem to be what was delivered to me. I was never a big user of either though. I suspect my lifetime sum of Tweets and Blurts would be under 5…

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Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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I tried Bluesky after Threads because the ads were getting to me. I reposted one picture of my favorite bird, the albatross, and then my feed was 100% bird pictures. I'm not interested in birds generally, just albatrosses specifically. But they were nice enough pictures so I kept using the app. Then I tried telling it about my other interest which was robotics, and so I started liking posts about autonomous cars. Spe…

These algorithms are supposed to be helping me discover new interests, but instead they make me cautious about what I click on. I watch two seconds of some video I ultimately don't care for and then get my feed chockfull of THAT shit forever.

I so miss the days when the Internet was more random. It's not really nostalgia - it WAS better.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Bluesky's feed algorithm (the "Discover" tab) is the worst I've ever seen. Hands down. I can't imagine anyone enjoying it unless they're 1) super into the US politics/domestic issues AND 2) politically aligned with the main user base of Bluesky. The funniest part is that there is a better algorithm. It's right here: https://bsky.app/profile/spacecowboy17.bsky.social/feed/for-... But somehow the devs of Bluesky never…

The false equivalency is so funny, you mean a platform where the president sells private access to his massive lies ahead of time so that you can front run the market? The one where war crimes are directly equivocated and WW3 is regularly threatened? The one where anti-vax conspiracy is gospel, up is down, and black is white? Get the biggest pile of hippy dippy bullshit together and you'll never compare to the toxic…

Plus, the fact that they call the posts "truths" (as in "the president truthed", "ads are sponsored truths") couldn't be more Orwellian.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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I notice that the stat the article repeatedly quotes is MAU for usage of the mobile app, but one of the things I love about Bluesky is that you don’t need to use a mobile app to have a good UX. I use the mobile browser to access it, so I’m not in that MAU number. Perhaps bsky has a larger number of active users that don’t use the app?

To be clear, since the mobile app users are decreasing, what you would actually need to claim is that "web users are more likely to continue using the app than mobile users are", not just that "there are a lot of web users", since the base assumption is that web and mobile users use the site in similar ways. I don't really see any reason to believe the former, and actually having worked on social media extensively I think there's a strong chance that the opposite is true, that if mobile users are declining web users are declining even faster. There's a reason sites push mobile apps so much and it's because retention is normally far better.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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post #114

I notice that the stat the article repeatedly quotes is MAU for usage of the mobile app, but one of the things I love about Bluesky is that you don’t need to use a mobile app to have a good UX. I use the mobile browser to access it, so I’m not in that MAU number. Perhaps bsky has a larger number of active users that don’t use the app?

Not having the app installed but being a monthly active user, not just someone who's driving by because they clicked on a link on mobile seems like an edge case and I'm pretty sure it won't make a difference to the numbers.

A website being used in a web browser seems to you like an edge case?! Really?

If that's really a common view, we really did lose the plot.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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I tried Bluesky after Threads because the ads were getting to me. I reposted one picture of my favorite bird, the albatross, and then my feed was 100% bird pictures. I'm not interested in birds generally, just albatrosses specifically. But they were nice enough pictures so I kept using the app. Then I tried telling it about my other interest which was robotics, and so I started liking posts about autonomous cars. Spe…

These algorithms are supposed to be helping me discover new interests, but instead they make me cautious about what I click on. I watch two seconds of some video I ultimately don't care for and then get my feed chockfull of THAT shit forever. I so miss the days when the Internet was more random. It's not really nostalgia - it WAS better.

Seems these days you can't even linger too long on a feed item or they flag your interest in it.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#128

I notice that the stat the article repeatedly quotes is MAU for usage of the mobile app, but one of the things I love about Bluesky is that you don’t need to use a mobile app to have a good UX. I use the mobile browser to access it, so I’m not in that MAU number. Perhaps bsky has a larger number of active users that don’t use the app?

Not only that, part of the point of the whole "atproto" business is to allow alternate frontends and backends. The official mobile app is kind of bad. A number of people have migrated to Blacksky (alternate backend) following a moderation fallout as well.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Bluesky and Threads both have a fundamental issue in that their entire pitch is "We are like Twitter, but we are not run by Elon Musk, a Republican." Which only energizes the most radical, fringe, terminally online, who happen to be the ones that were most disliked on regular Twitter in the first place. When you whole pitch has zero appeal to 95% of people, its dead.

lol

Twitter's fundamental issue is that it's entire pitch is "You can say the most outrageous things on the planet, share race-baiting videos, and be a scumbag as long as it doesn't anger Elon. Also, we're down with child pornography"

Which only energizes the most radical, fringe, terminally online, who happen to be the ones who were most disliked on regular Twitter in the first place.

See how that works?

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