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OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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Post by mvkel »

wavemode wrote: post #98
forestrywat wrote: post #82

IME companies hire an ethics team to say they have an ethics team. The ethics team has no sway, no influence, and will never be able to move the business. They will try, and they will make reasonable recommendations, but the company will say, "that costs money..." and not take them.

OpenAI was probably able to at least pretend that her role mattered... until they let their AI autonomously hack a rival company, then used the incident to score marketing points. I'm not surprised she left.

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Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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insanitybit wrote: post #102

I've never worked at a company with an "ethics" employee. It seems odd. Can someone explain what the point is? > She has held a variety of academic positions at Temple University, Princeton, and the University of Pennsylvania – where she completed her PhD in Political Science and Government. Her Dissertation was titled “Small Talk: The Socialities of Speech in Liberal Democratic Life.” This doesn't even feel relevant…

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Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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RobotToaster wrote: post #113
forestrywat wrote: post #82

IME companies hire an ethics team to say they have an ethics team. The ethics team has no sway, no influence, and will never be able to move the business. They will try, and they will make reasonable recommendations, but the company will say, "that costs money..." and not take them.

If you ever feel like your job is useless, remember that raytheon has an ethics team.

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Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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Post by embedding-shape »

RobotToaster wrote: post #113
forestrywat wrote: post #82

IME companies hire an ethics team to say they have an ethics team. The ethics team has no sway, no influence, and will never be able to move the business. They will try, and they will make reasonable recommendations, but the company will say, "that costs money..." and not take them.

If you ever feel like your job is useless, remember that raytheon has an ethics team.

Wouldn't that be probably one of the most important places to have an ethics team?

I'd be much more worried if my local water treatment plant or local bar had an ethics team, and people working there probably would feel slightly more useless than Raytheon's ethics team, which I'm sure feel like they're doing something important and worthwhile.

Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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Post by embedding-shape »

ackbar03 wrote: post #117
KptMarchewa wrote: post #67

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How do I get on this gravy train

First, you need to want to make A LOT OF MONEY. Secondly, you need to throw anything you know about morals and ethics, and if you have compassion/empathy for others, you need to leave that somewhere too.

Once these things are taken care of, there are so many opportunities to make so much money. If you're in the US, look at what the current US politicians and the administration is doing, and basically copy them. Right now in the US is the era for shameless greedy people, and it is extremely easy to make money from the gullible population. But again, requires the whole "shameless" part.

Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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Post by [deleted] »

embedding-shape wrote: post #124
RobotToaster wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you ever feel like your job is useless, remember that raytheon has an ethics team.

Wouldn't that be probably one of the most important places to have an ethics team? I'd be much more worried if my local water treatment plant or local bar had an ethics team, and people working there probably would feel slightly more useless than Raytheon's ethics team, which I'm sure feel like they're doing something important and worthwhile.

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Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

mvkel wrote: post #121
wavemode wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenAI was probably able to at least pretend that her role mattered... until they let their AI autonomously hack a rival company, then used the incident to score marketing points. I'm not surprised she left.

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What if you actually told us, instead of just asking a question? If you have something to say, say it. Don't vaguepost.

Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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Post by harladsinsteden »

edu wrote: post #109
scottLobster wrote: post #99

Lol, Sam Altman has had an ethics team this whole time? Her typical day: "No Sam, you can't just publicly screw over everyone and get rid of all the jobs, the peasants care about that sort of thing and if they get angry enough we'll have real problems. No we can't just kill them all, why would you suggest that?"

Before Altman she worked for Zuckerberg. What will be next?

Elon might want someone like her...

Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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Post by testbjjl »

mvkel wrote: post #121
wavemode wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenAI was probably able to at least pretend that her role mattered... until they let their AI autonomously hack a rival company, then used the incident to score marketing points. I'm not surprised she left.

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You would be creating a counterfactual inconsistent with most’s understanding of the role and bringing this person’s motives and credibility into question without supporting evidence?
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