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Well, our best bet is that we succeed in making the machines be less stupid than we are, and hope that they figure it out.
So the machines should create the human-machine symbiosis for some reason, interesting... If I was the machine I would maximally want about the same symbiosis with humans as humans have with cows.
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I read Lilly's Programming and Meta programming in the Human Biocomputer as a young man. Left me with a lot of questions, etc. That you replied to this post, indicates you may be familiar with Lilly? Anyway, if you have any published writing on even vaguely related subjects, eg your comment, perhaps post a link. I will read it. If you weren't aware, he spent a fair amount of time with Feynman, who if I remember corre…
The isolation-experiment-based research is not new and didn't originate with Lilly. AFAIK, it was first recorded (and possibly also originated) with Avicenna (Abu Ali Ibn-e Sina is the full, correct name). And he was not an Ayrab (Salmon in his intro CS book claims Al-Khuarezmi was an Arabic scholar--which is false and made me lose all respect for Salmon as an educator. If he got such an elementary fact wrong, what e…
Ted Kaczynski, despite his violent activism, had interesting things to say about this in the form of self-propagating systems.
What's this? He wrote on replicators?
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-why-th...
Here is an expanded version of the same essay as well (part 5 is prescient):
https://www.thetedkarchive.com/library/ted-kaczynski-why-the...
Also, a very lucid synthesis of TK's work is provided in Chad A. Haag's book: The Philosophy of Ted Kaczynski.
Well, it's unorthodox, but if we're sharing psychedelic visions... in 2018 I saw all of mankind marching together in perfect lockstep, atop an infinite uniform grey plane, to the beat of a central computer clock. "They are going to offer you a chip. You tell them, no thank you!" --- More broadly this strikes me as a new era of biology. (Genes -> Memes -> Temes) Straightforwardly then, we should aim for a symbiosis. (…
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There are some ignorant people who don't understand the technology and make wild predictions of catastrophe. It's very strange.
Ah yes and surely the people leading the labs and research teams who are also worried about catastrophe just don't understand the technology? Oh wait wait, no, I bet it's that they're conflicted. And the previous pioneers of the field who left it and are now warning of catastrophe, they don't understand it? Or are they conflicted? No that can't be it. Oh no no I got it, those ones are illegitimate because they alread…
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Ah yes and surely the people leading the labs and research teams who are also worried about catastrophe just don't understand the technology? Oh wait wait, no, I bet it's that they're conflicted. And the previous pioneers of the field who left it and are now warning of catastrophe, they don't understand it? Or are they conflicted? No that can't be it. Oh no no I got it, those ones are illegitimate because they alread…
I haven't painted myself into any corner. You're making entirely unsubstantiated claims based on zero scientific evidence. Sad.
You're the only one who made an unsubstantiated claim, saying the only people who are worried about risks are ignorant and don't understand the technology.
This is so trivially disproven that I have to assume only someone seriously motivated to remain ignorant could, in fact, be ignorant of it at this point.
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I have a serious question, and please don't take this as an insult, I'm trying to figure something out. Do you have ADHD or is it possible you do? What about depression? Bipolar? I ask because of the way you say the substances impacted you. I know people with these formal diagnosis and they also don't have the same experiences on various substances as many.
Not the guy but I relate. You also forgot the narcissism, autism and schizophrenia ;)
What makes you think you can diagnose a person over the Internet with so little info?
Especially taking into account people are not always “themselves” online rather than tapping into culture/communication? Sheesh
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I think Lilly may have been sort of primed for intense psychedelic experiences. He had angelic visions as a child, and had a very religious upbringing. He was also a very imaginative person, so perhaps that influenced his trips a lot.
I think it is not just "intense" it is whether you realize you had more or less the same experience that everybody else has when they take hallucinogens because it is written in our nervous systems or whether you believe you are "special" and receiving a unique message. People in traditional cultures believed pretty much the same things before the empire [1] sent soldiers and scribes to your ancestor's village. Seen…
Nepobabies (maybe Lilly) are mostly uncool. Being able to hold your acid is cool. Mostly. That's about timing, too, but there's also a purely social component.
Thinking you're special when you are not is uncool. Signalling that you think you're not special when everyone around you think you are is ...also uncool.
Why would the mods disagree?
There is no "empire of cool" because empire is uncool
Cool is neither social nor antisocial. Cool might be a [re]productive mix of both. (Maybe some would prefer "barely sustainable" here, that reintroduces "timing" as an essential ingredient)
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Not the guy but I relate. You also forgot the narcissism, autism and schizophrenia ;)
Hahah what? From the Lilly quote or? What makes you think you can diagnose a person over the Internet with so little info? Especially taking into account people are not always “themselves” online rather than tapping into culture/communication? Sheesh
I'm not trying to "diagnose" someone, I'm asking for a correlation of additional observational data. Maybe it's a data point for or against certain conditions and how they interact with different substances, but wouldn't know until the response.
It is well known that people on SSRIs, etc will have "blocking effects" for various substances because of their mechanism of action.
But I have also met some people with severe depression or were bipolar 1 that both were not on any medications and had no visuals or sensory disturbances of any kind.
It's fascinating
John C. Lilly once said “there are infinities in the mind” while wearing a raccoon hat like Davy Crocket. He said it like he’s been somewhere! I’ve tried to all - I guess DMT, mushroom, etc. don’t work on me in a Terence McKenna storytelling fashion (I only get stoned and have very entertaining closed eye visuals that take me off to sleep). That said haven’t tried Ketamine. Maybe not for me. Same reason I don’t want…
In my experience you can’t get there through external sources You need to be accepting and prepared to die in every sense of the word in order get there Which means you need to shed your ego entirely and everyone has their own journey there. You’ll know when you meet someone that has experienced it though it’s very rare