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AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

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Re: AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

#121
Given the fast churn of the models, how does it work out?

Won’t the silicon etched model already be 1 or more versions behind by the time the silicon comes out.

Though if it’s cheap enough, there certainly can be a market for cheaper model inferences.

Re: AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

#122
This is neat but IMO a little crazy.

Something I personally haven’t seen much of, in all the discussions of model benchmarks and AI breakthroughs, is a distinction between “peak performance” and “reliable performance”. The “peak performance” of frontier models is very high: they’re solving open math problems, analyzing large codebases, etc. But my subjective impression is that “reliable performance” is mid at best: out of 100 random questions I might think to ask, it’s likely to say something wrong or stupid a handful of times at least.

I think there’s inherent tension between the two: the more a model reaches or outright hallucinates, the more likely it is to come up with tricky, subtle solutions to problems (I think people are somewhat like this too: Terry Tao’s brother is nonverbal, Jim Watson’s son has severe schizophrenia, etc). But then the less likely it is to generate a sensible email reply.

I use models all the time for coding, but I would not let one take over my daily correspondence. If the idea here is to run frontier models at high speed in data centers, that could be useful (the speed would be cool), but I’d be surprised if the cost of that hardware churn is worth it to frontier labs. But if the idea is to turn this into a chip that goes in your phone as some kind of routine, low-power inference thing…taking something too kooky to be relied on and baking it into your phone’s hardware like that doesn’t make sense to me.

Re: AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

#123
> At 20 billion parameters per chip, you’d need just 50 accelerators to support a trillion-parameter model

I don't see any evidence that this is possible. From my understanding, the whole model needs to be on a single chip. Which rules out any popular frontier models with several trillions of parameters. Even smaller sub-frontier models have hundreds of millions of parameters, so these would be ruled out as well.

Re: AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

#124
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting thought, because it's a yield question. How tolerant are models today to a few broken weights. If tolerant, they could churn out many cheaper chips, some perhaps with slight abnormal tendencies ;)

> How tolerant are models today to a few broken weights. Extremely! You can remove entire layers and the model will still work just fine, with barely perceptible capability losses. I've cut/bypassed ~15% of total parameters out of Gemma 4 31B on a pod once. Still got perfectly coherent responses out of it. Certain layers are a lot more important than others, particularly early and late ones; but it's honestly astonis…

Brings to mind the scene in '2001' where Bowman is pulling out individual pieces of hardware that represent the mind of HAL, and it becomes increasingly incoherent as more physical hardware is detached.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwCFY6pmaYY

Re: AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

#125
post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I remember, these chips are not mobile size yet

A small model would be. I think that’s more the point. It’s definitely not SOTA but it’s fast and energy efficient and local.

> A small model would be [mobile size]

A ~30mm side for the HC1 tech for an 8b model (still unclear the planned HC2)?

Re: AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

#126

I'm surprised neither OpenAI nor Anthropic made this move first. The Chinese open weight models are pulling ahead and commoditizing their value proposition. Baking models onto silicon would've been the next logical move to get a moat. Google is already doing this and has an experimental project on top of already having TPUs and cramming their quantized flash onto individual TPUs for inference.

A model can't be updated, and a chip that is only relevant for 6 months at max?

Depends what you mean by relevant. If you use AI primarily as a search/knowledge engine, it makes no sense. If it's your capable assistant that has a lot of general knowledge, can do tool calls, and has a big context window, very doable.

Indeed, for some kinds of applications involving secure/legal data etc. I can see the consistency of silicon winning out, because it combines performance with immutability and guardrails in hardware. Some chips have write-once PROMs to store password hashes and similar, you could do the same thing with prompt hashing to absolutely force or forbid certain behaviors. A model that can't be updated is also a model that can't be hacked.

Re: AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

#127

I'm surprised neither OpenAI nor Anthropic made this move first. The Chinese open weight models are pulling ahead and commoditizing their value proposition. Baking models onto silicon would've been the next logical move to get a moat. Google is already doing this and has an experimental project on top of already having TPUs and cramming their quantized flash onto individual TPUs for inference.

ASICs is what took over Bitcoin mining, cheaper in all ways, and lasts longer than Nvidia GPUs for inference.

Re: AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

#128
It obviously won’t be continuous delivery but could make sense if the lifecycle of a model (train, deploy, iterate (meaningfully) is about 1-2 years. In that case it fits nicely in the “this year’s model” already established with cars, phones, etc.

Re: AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

#129
post #77

I'm surprised neither OpenAI nor Anthropic made this move first. The Chinese open weight models are pulling ahead and commoditizing their value proposition. Baking models onto silicon would've been the next logical move to get a moat. Google is already doing this and has an experimental project on top of already having TPUs and cramming their quantized flash onto individual TPUs for inference.

It's a terrible moat. You etch the silicon then nobody wants to run it in 6 months because models have advanced that much further.

This is only true for people who are solely focused on performance. There is absolutely a market for acceptable performance combined with predictability.

Re: AMD acquires Taalas to boost inference performance by etching models in silicon

#130

I'm surprised neither OpenAI nor Anthropic made this move first. The Chinese open weight models are pulling ahead and commoditizing their value proposition. Baking models onto silicon would've been the next logical move to get a moat. Google is already doing this and has an experimental project on top of already having TPUs and cramming their quantized flash onto individual TPUs for inference.

Apparently Anthropic is moving that way: https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/08/anthropic-confirms-plans-...
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