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Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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Post by greggoB »

iso1631 wrote: post #108
melling wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who cares. Fix the big problems first. The general public is already complaining about subsidizing EVs, renewables, etc. It’s ridiculous the amount of fossil fuels we still burn for electricity. This “shame, shame” garbage that people did never worked.

> subsidizing renewables Except this isn't happening. Oil is subsidised (and not just by the constant action for the last 50 years to keep oil flowing from the middle east), and has been for decades. Even coal is subsidised in the US Renewables are increasingly banned in the US. I agree the nonsense about the tree botherers saying "we need to be vegetarian and use no more than 1kWh a day of energy" are twats that do…

> we need to be vegetarian

In my experience it's been vegan even :P And yes, agreed, this is indeed counterproductive virtue signalling.

Re: Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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Post by dudefeliciano »

elil17 wrote: post #112
dudefeliciano wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about short distances? Why is it cheaper to fly Berlin-Stuttgart than to take a train? it makes absoutely no sense.

The costs are pretty evenly split between: 1) Maintaining track 2) Buying/leasing/maintaining trains 3) Staff The single best thing you can do to drive down train cost is to put more people on each train. Based on these sources: https://www.statista.com/chart/20169/gb-rail-fare-spending-b... https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/f5c82d86-23...

I understand where the costs come from, but how trains are more expensive to operate than airplanes is still baffling to me.

Re: Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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Post by snapplebobapple »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #91
rob74 wrote: post #19

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History, as recorded by Flightradar24: "a whopping grand total of 153,359 commercial flights were tracked between 00:00 UTC and 23:59 UTC on July 23, 2026" So I would say it's justified to qualify it. Not sure how Flightradar24's coverage has evolved over time, but it could theoretically be that there were more flights at some point before 2020, but some of them weren't tracked?

I think the parents point was that before recorded history we can be pretty sure there weren't airplanes for anyone to take flights on

safer to hedge ones bets. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. We could dig up a dinosaur equivalent of a 747 tomorrow.

also, recorded history pulls double duty here limiting the record to earth. You never know what those shady schmucks in the delta quadrant are up to...

Re: Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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Post by bluefirebrand »

snapplebobapple wrote: post #123
bluefirebrand wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the parents point was that before recorded history we can be pretty sure there weren't airplanes for anyone to take flights on

safer to hedge ones bets. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. We could dig up a dinosaur equivalent of a 747 tomorrow. also, recorded history pulls double duty here limiting the record to earth. You never know what those shady schmucks in the delta quadrant are up to...

> The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence

We have plenty of evidence to suggest that no other known thing that we have ever encountered on Earth either living or as fossils would have been capable of building an airplane

You're right that we have no direct evidence that there never were airplanes before humans existed, but with the evidence we do have it would be downright absurd to suggest we can't make a statement about that with some authority

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #124
snapplebobapple wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

safer to hedge ones bets. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. We could dig up a dinosaur equivalent of a 747 tomorrow. also, recorded history pulls double duty here limiting the record to earth. You never know what those shady schmucks in the delta quadrant are up to...

> The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence We have plenty of evidence to suggest that no other known thing that we have ever encountered on Earth either living or as fossils would have been capable of building an airplane You're right that we have no direct evidence that there never were airplanes before humans existed, but with the evidence we do have it would be downright absurd to suggest we can't ma…

> no other known thing that we have ever encountered on Earth

Fantastic tautology. A+ in Logical Fallacies today.

I personally know 3 guys who say they work for Boeing, but I have no evidence that they aren’t lizard people.

Re: Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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Post by bluefirebrand »

ButlerianJihad wrote: post #125
bluefirebrand wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence We have plenty of evidence to suggest that no other known thing that we have ever encountered on Earth either living or as fossils would have been capable of building an airplane You're right that we have no direct evidence that there never were airplanes before humans existed, but with the evidence we do have it would be downright absurd to suggest we can't ma…

> no other known thing that we have ever encountered on Earth Fantastic tautology. A+ in Logical Fallacies today. I personally know 3 guys who say they work for Boeing, but I have no evidence that they aren’t lizard people.

I'm not sure what you're objecting to

I'm trying to say there might be stuff out there we don't know about, but we have no knowledge of it or reason to believe it exists so -who cares-. If we encounter that stuff later on we can adjust our priors at that time. What exactly is the fallacy there?

Re: Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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Post by iso1631 »

greggoB wrote: post #121
iso1631 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> subsidizing renewables Except this isn't happening. Oil is subsidised (and not just by the constant action for the last 50 years to keep oil flowing from the middle east), and has been for decades. Even coal is subsidised in the US Renewables are increasingly banned in the US. I agree the nonsense about the tree botherers saying "we need to be vegetarian and use no more than 1kWh a day of energy" are twats that do…

> we need to be vegetarian In my experience it's been vegan even :P And yes, agreed, this is indeed counterproductive virtue signalling.

Even then you get complaints

"oh you use almond milk, that's terrible you should use soya"

"oh you use soya, that's terrible you should drink black tea"

"oh you're having tea, how dare you continue plantation slavery"

Re: Over 150k Flights: Airlines Just Flew the Busiest Day in Recorded History

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Post by ortusdux »

bluebarbet wrote: post #67
elil17 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is that we are enabling people to travel long distances too cheaply.

And above all too quickly . Per kilometer, flying is roughly as polluting as driving, but nobody would think to drive across a continent to go to the beach.

The average average car gets 28MPG in the US, so flying is currently 2-3 times more efficient per mile.
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