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Re: JetZero

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Post by adaml_623 »

bruce511 wrote: post #47
azza2110 wrote: post #22

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No way. Looking out the window is one of the joys of flying. Picking out my house, seeing tiny cars on a remote highway, etc. Even 100+ MP cameras and high resolution screens won't come close to that level of detail.

Only a small fraction of current flyers get window seats. And the view from the isle seat or middle row is non-existent. And that's before we talk about night flights when there's nothing to see, flights over water when there's nothing to see and so on. So yes, I'm sure some people like windows. But the majority have demonstrated that they're just fine flying without them.

I love looking out plane windows at night. Distant lightning storms, cities, fishing boats, highways, country borders lit up and stretching as far as you can see.

Re: JetZero

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Post by VectorLock »

xnx wrote: post #5

Big screens are an OK workaround for no passenger windows, but they still have to contend with severe structural pressurization challenges, strict emergency evacuation rules, and incompatibility with current airport gates.

I give absolutely less than zero f's about no windows for 2" more legroom.

Re: JetZero

#123

Post by SilverSlash »

chasing wrote: post #30
SilverSlash wrote: post #23

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I don't mind no windows at all if they have "digital windows" as substitutes. You're already 40,000ft in the air I think windows aren't really gonna help your claustrophobia. Not like you can open the door and walk out for a bit.

Maybe. I think people could survive it, sure. But I also wonder if there's a part of our lizard brain that just for safety's sake prefers to be able to see out of any small enclosed space we might find ourselves in. And that lizard brain is smart enough to know that a flat screen is fake. Again, I just think of flying in a plane today but with no windows and I, at least, am immediately squigged out. I also feel like…

Yes it's interesting and I'm by no means certain how I will feel inside one either. But people are also highly adaptable so we'll see how it goes.

Edit: also this older concept image shows windows: https://www.jetzero.aero/hs-fs/hubfs/JetZero-Z4-left.png?wid...

Re: JetZero

#124

Post by VectorLock »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #51
briandw wrote: post #17

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In a conventional aircraft you sit on the roll axis. In a blended wing body design you can have off-axis motion that can increase motion sickness. Rather than rolling with the longitudinal axis of the aircraft, you move up and down when the aircraft banks. Not necessarily a deal breaker, but an additional difference to deal with.

> In a blended wing body design you can have off-axis motion that can increase motion sickness This sounds fixable in avionics and training. (Shallow, gradual banks.) Note, too, that a larger lifting body needs to bank less to execute the same turn as a craft with more loading.

Sounds fixable by making the outer seats cheaper.

Re: JetZero

#126

Post by mi_lk »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #113

Tangentially related Good news: You can avoid about half the greenhouse effects of flight by slightly changing the flight plan to avoid cloud forming regions Bad news: this generally wasn't counted before and when counted roughly doubles the impact so in some senses you're back to where you started. But it's a much lower hanging fruit than anything else and as yet we're not doing it.

how do know if a route would go through cloud forming regions

Re: JetZero

#127

Post by Cider9986 »

JSR_FDED wrote: post #93
noduerme wrote: post #85

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Not to mention the cretins who put their windows down for the whole flight.

Except when everyone is trying to sleep and one person has their window up

Eye mask is requirement no matter the window position.

Re: JetZero

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Post by kubafu »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #113

Tangentially related Good news: You can avoid about half the greenhouse effects of flight by slightly changing the flight plan to avoid cloud forming regions Bad news: this generally wasn't counted before and when counted roughly doubles the impact so in some senses you're back to where you started. But it's a much lower hanging fruit than anything else and as yet we're not doing it.

A lot of us is avoiding more by choosing not to fly.

Re: JetZero

#129

Post by daishi424 »

iamwil wrote: post #103

What I really want, is a plane that can load passengers like containers--or like a rollercoaster car. Of course, it should be comfortable. I just mean that the passenger compartment should be modular. So you can put your luggage in and get settled while sitting in the airport, and then when the plane comes in, it just side-loads everyone all at once. Once landed, it just slides everyone off, and you can just I know t…

So, essentially that's how it works in the game Elite: Dangerous where you load and unload the passengers in cabins which are measured in tons. They can even be stolen mid-flight by anyone with a hatch breaker drone. Unfortunately, you cannot jettison them in the void of space.

Then there are the Imperial slaves which are considered cargo and not passengers, but it's a different story...

Re: JetZero

#130

Post by carlosjobim »

articulatepang wrote: post #32
azza2110 wrote: post #22

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No way. Looking out the window is one of the joys of flying. Picking out my house, seeing tiny cars on a remote highway, etc. Even 100+ MP cameras and high resolution screens won't come close to that level of detail.

But are you willing to pay 10-20% more for that joy? I personally would rather pay less money to fly, not get to see out the window, and spend those dollars on, say, a fancier meal at the destination. Or to have an extra day at the destination if my trip length is money-bound rather than time-bound. Or put those dollars towards an extra hour of childcare. Or … I have so many uses for dollars that give me more utility…

You would change the experience of the glory of flying for food instead? Live while you're alive!
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