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I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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post #79

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It's at https://andros.dev/blog/feed/en/ Had to look at the page source to find it, since without JS, the bottom left button does nothing.

Modals use JS, that's normal.

It doesn't need to be a modal and can (should!) fall back to a simple without JS. It also didn't work even with JS for me.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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post #79

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It's at https://andros.dev/blog/feed/en/ Had to look at the page source to find it, since without JS, the bottom left button does nothing.

Modals use JS, that's normal.

I tried manually typing a handful of common feed URLs relative and absolute, a firefox feed auto-finder extension, and a quick ctrl-f for feed in the source. But I guess if running an application is required for your webpages I'm better off not subscribing. That's not my kind of jam but it is understandable if your blog is for profit or it's purpose is to get you a job or something.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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post #109

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which is exactly why the web lost, and large platforms won.

Meh. “Won” who? For a long time I was sad about the lost web, but it turns out most people on social media that has replaced the web have nothing interesting to say. I am sad about local groups and forums, but that is not something that IndieWeb is trying to solve. The other problem is businesses that have retired to Instagram. which I find baffling.

So then why are so many, so eager and committed, to overturn the big platforms if “most people”… “have nothing interesting to say.”?

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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If IndieWeb wants content, burying it under a ton of tech soup is the exact opposite of what they claim they want. How do the developers not realise that this set of protocols is completely unworkable for 90% of users? Please stop developing systems where the engineering is front and centre. If you want to put content UX first, you need to do exactly that, with a one-click solution that gets users up and running inst…

No. Exact opposite. Opening it up to everyone is what kills everything good, the endless september of grocery store tabloid aisles and clickbait. Gatekeepers are good, restrictions on participation are good. The internet was better when it was a self selecting place for interesting interested people and not the global walmart.

Eh, I feel like the issue with this logic is that being technically savvy and having interesting things to say aren't really that heavily correlated. Plenty of people are incredibly knowledgeable about non-technical fields and have tons of things they could say about them, but aren't technical enough to setup a website (or in many cases, edit videos/run a YouTube channel/etc either).

Meanwhile there are also plenty of tech folks that have zero empathy or interest in quality that can easily get past any technical barrier you put in front of them, like the more talented folks at companies like Anthropic or Meta.

Making things difficult to set up tech wise doesn't select for intelligence or skill or creativity, it selects for people that work in tech as their day job.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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post #79

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Modals use JS, that's normal.

It doesn't need to be a modal and can (should!) fall back to a simple without JS. It also didn't work even with JS for me.

First, you're assuming my entire website should work without JavaScript. You don't understand my design reasoning, nor have you asked about the underlying cause.

Second, for a modal, I should use a `` that opens via a ``, which it already does. JavaScript does the magic. Not a `` as you suggested.

Finally, if it's a bug, which I find very strange because it's a very simple piece of code and no one has reported it, you're not posting it in the right place. An email or the contact form would have been more appropriate.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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post #79

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Modals use JS, that's normal.

I tried manually typing a handful of common feed URLs relative and absolute, a firefox feed auto-finder extension, and a quick ctrl-f for feed in the source. But I guess if running an application is required for your webpages I'm better off not subscribing. That's not my kind of jam but it is understandable if your blog is for profit or it's purpose is to get you a job or something.

That's why I created a modal that explains the different RSS feeds for subscribing and their possibilities. My blog is over a decade old, and I've never used advertising, had sponsored articles, or tried to monetize it (except for asking for donations to maintain the server). I've written freely, sharing knowledge, creating tutorials, and developing courses. Your comment makes me lose the motivation to keep doing it.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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post #7

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Well, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just letting you know what they recommend :D By the way, andros.dev has an RSS feed.

> Well, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just letting you know what they recommend :D The great thing about hosting your own website is that you can decide for yourself what "standards" and "recommendations" actually make sense for you. > By the way, andros.dev has an RSS feed. You should add links to the RSS/Atom feed. The way people (or at least I) discover RSS feeds is to paste the blog/article URL into my feed read…

Thanks for the advice, but I intentionally removed ``. I think if you take some time to explore the feed modal, you'll understand why I did it.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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post #18

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Today it's quite easy to keep your private notes on your infrastructure, manage them with your iPhone, and even store them in plain text: Joplin, Syncthing, WebDAV ( https://en.andros.dev/blog/9abcdcfe/your-denote-notes-on-the... )...

> “Today it's quite easy…” Not sure if you’re responding to my confusion (“Having difficulty imagining this constraint”). I’m not asking about implementation of a solution nor of capability, but how the maxim “use what you make” is envisaged by the authors as a mechanism of engagement, management and quality for the IndieWeb. Why is it a pilar?

I'm not in the authors' heads, but I suppose they want to enhance the feeling of belonging.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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post #6

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I don't know about you, but I don't know of any native (non website/javascript) software that supports h-feeds. IndiePass was only ever for smartphones and it's fully dead. h-feed is more of a html integrated mark-up for posts than any form of actual separate feed file. This is claimed to be a positive aspect of h-feeds, not being a separate file... but it really isn't. I keep track of all the other indieweb sites I…

It's at https://andros.dev/blog/feed/en/ Had to look at the page source to find it, since without JS, the bottom left button does nothing.

By the way, what you're saying isn't true. That link isn't present in either the HTML or the JS, the URL is sent via WebSockets. You had to open the modal to see it.
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