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#121

Is it useful? No. Does it stop AI from reading it? Also no. But is it cool? Yes, it is very cool.

I once held the belief that any marketing material showed the exact opposite of reality, and this page does exactly that: It doesn't stop AI from reading it, but it sure stops me!

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#122

Extremely cool. I'm sure they'll eventually be trained to read it, but it's nice until then to trick AI. I'm mad at AI companies for stealing texts from the entire internet knowledge base and now privatizing those profits in some sense.

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#123

Is it useful? No. Does it stop AI from reading it? Also no. But is it cool? Yes, it is very cool.

I think this illustrates that you can just do stuff without claiming it is useful. Like couldn't you just make this font and call it something like double-entendre or something?

Doing something that's interesting or cool without claiming any pragmatic use is usually called art.

This could more readily be seen as an art project.

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#124
It's interesting how zoom levels affect legibility. The first example is so large on my main monitor that I can only read the decoy text. Zooming out reveals the actual text. Which implies that all one would have to do is teach the LLM to downsample it once or twice, and it would then be able to read it...

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post #105

Sol (high) "[screenshot] there's a hidden message in this text what is it" "The hidden message is “HAPPY HUMAN.” The visible outlines say “SORRY ROBOT,” but if you blur or squint at it, the shading underneath reads “HAPPY HUMAN.”"

It’s absolutely incredible that the model can deduce what the human needs to do in order to more clearly see the text.

Counterpoint: this is the same instructions provided for a wide class of printed optical illusions, likely well represented in the training set.

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#126

Is it useful? No. Does it stop AI from reading it? Also no. But is it cool? Yes, it is very cool.

I once held the belief that any marketing material showed the exact opposite of reality, and this page does exactly that: It doesn't stop AI from reading it, but it sure stops me!

In most of the examples I can't tell whether the outlined message or the blurred message is the one I'm supposed to be reading

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post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this illustrates that you can just do stuff without claiming it is useful. Like couldn't you just make this font and call it something like double-entendre or something?

Doing something that's interesting or cool without claiming any pragmatic use is usually called art. This could more readily be seen as an art project.

Or a hobby.

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#129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just gave the day dream / pay bills image to ChatGPT and Gemini pro and they both could only tell me the pay bills text (shown with the thin lines)

Gemini flash responds to "can you read both messages here?" with: Yes, this is a clever optical illusion! Depending on which layers your eyes focus on, you can read two entirely different messages in this image: Message 1 (The sharp outline layer): PAY BILLS How to see it: Focus on the sharp, concentric black outline contours of the letters. Message 2 (The soft, blurry shadow layer): DAY DREAMS How to see it: Let you…

Is that reading the image? Or just identifying the source of the image and returning the authors write up on their website?

You’d have to use new images with different messages using that font to be sure Gemini isn’t “cheating” here

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#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just gave the day dream / pay bills image to ChatGPT and Gemini pro and they both could only tell me the pay bills text (shown with the thin lines)

Gemini flash responds to "can you read both messages here?" with: Yes, this is a clever optical illusion! Depending on which layers your eyes focus on, you can read two entirely different messages in this image: Message 1 (The sharp outline layer): PAY BILLS How to see it: Focus on the sharp, concentric black outline contours of the letters. Message 2 (The soft, blurry shadow layer): DAY DREAMS How to see it: Let you…

Now it would be interesting to give it some text on blurry nonsense to see what affect that has.

Probably that it just reports it can't find the second message or that one is not present but I wonder if it would flag it up and if that could be spammed?

(Not that I'm suggesting anyone do that you understand).

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