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A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by Melatonic »

risico wrote: post #33
rideontime wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to tell if that's the same as the Ian Knot: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I've learned the Ian Knot almost 10 years ago and it still gives me a good smile when I use it every day. Feels like a proper life-hack. I also cannot help myself but look down at people that don't use it, shoelace normies.

The lock lace method (I forget the "official" name) is also a huge game changer for footwear. Especially boots and taller stuff.

You can use it to have looser / tigher "zones" or specific areas and optimise the fit of well fitting shoes and make shoes that dont fit temporarily useable. Also great for hiking when you might want a slightly looser toebox for general use and then tighten everything down when switching to a steep downhill sections.

Also a game changer for snowboard boots and why I prefer traditional laces vs speed laces or boa systems. I can see why they are popular there though - most people wont be using fancier lacing techniques and have two adjustable zones (speed laces) is better than none.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by lysace »

Flag rope knots are low key stressful. You only need to do them once every 5-10 years or so, so you don't really develop any expertise through practice. If you do it wrong, you probably have to pay or arrange for a team of two people to lower the flagpole.

The flag rope for our 12 meter flagpole broke. I seriously debated getting a drone to replace it in situ. Then I realized hauling just a few hundred grams of rope needs a fairly serious drone.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by ____tom____ »

tzs wrote: post #76
someguyiguess wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're spending that much time tying drawstrings I think you've got bigger problems.

If it takes 5 minutes to learn, and if you have 30 more years of needing to tie drawstrings, and you need to tie on average one drawstring per week, you will come out ahead if it saves you 0.19 seconds tying or retying per drawstring.

Ah, but are you remembering to discount the future time saving, to get the net present value of the time savings?

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by proggy »

SoftTalker wrote: post #39

Life is too short to make simple things more complicated.

I don’t see how this is complicated, it’s simply a technique. The creator of the video has no stated agenda, and it’s on the viewer to decide whether or not they want to learn and apply this method. Lots of people find joy in solving the little things in life that would otherwise cause them frustration. One of the top comments on the video is a nurse saying they’d been tying their scrubs with bunny ears for 30 years and always had to keep adjusting them. Certainly it isn’t overly complicated for them.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by throw101010 »

argee wrote: post #113
wccrawford wrote: post #45

I did this for a while after seeing that video, but after some of my shorts ended up tightening into a knot that I couldn't get loose easily, I gave up on it. I instead just use the "Ian Knot" that I use to tie my shoes. It's very quick, I already use it all the time anyhow, and it rarely goes wrong. (Sometimes, I think I end up with an end through a loop accidentally, and have to fix it.) Learning this extra knot di…

If you have round laces, Ian’s knot reliably comes undone. Ian’s secure shoelace knot is better in that case, though it’s slightly slower and trickier to do. The double Ian knot is interesting too, but it (and several other alternatives) won’t have the “pull just once to untie” mechanic.

Ian's knot doesn't come undone easily if you do it the right way, many people learn it incorrectly when they are young and never revisit it... but they are making Granny knots instead: https://tokay-ultimate.com/blogs/infos/how-to-tie-your-laces

It's even more noticeable/frequent with round laces so that's what makes me suspect you might be a victim of this.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by aidenn0 »

josefresco wrote: post #108

Only knot I know and I use it frequently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowline Knots are incredibly situational which makes learning a lot of them (through practice) difficult.

Bowline is inappropriate for anything that you need to apply tension to while tying (like your gym shorts).

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by aidenn0 »

wffurr wrote: post #23

Per the video description, this is a Lapp Knot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapp_knot , sadly not animated by Grog.

Thanks, I was thinking "that looks a lot like a slipped sheet-bend," but could tell that something wasn't quite right.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by argee »

throw101010 wrote: post #125
argee wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have round laces, Ian’s knot reliably comes undone. Ian’s secure shoelace knot is better in that case, though it’s slightly slower and trickier to do. The double Ian knot is interesting too, but it (and several other alternatives) won’t have the “pull just once to untie” mechanic.

Ian's knot doesn't come undone easily if you do it the right way, many people learn it incorrectly when they are young and never revisit it... but they are making Granny knots instead: https://tokay-ultimate.com/blogs/infos/how-to-tie-your-laces It's even more noticeable/frequent with round laces so that's what makes me suspect you might be a victim of this.

You can read about why Ian made the new knot as an improvement over secure knots specifically here. [0] But hey, maybe Ian was unknowingly tying a Granny knot instead. ;)

    Comparison To Other Regular Shoelace Knots
    
    It was much easier to prove that Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot is more secure than any of the regular shoelace knots. Using a pair of shoes with round, slippery laces, I tied one with my Ian Knot and the other with my Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot. Despite tying both to approximately the same average tightness, the Ian Knot came untied two or three times a week whereas the Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot never came untied.
https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknottech.htm
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