Fable 5 is Back • Hacker News Board

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by ctoth » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 8:55 PM UTC

maldev wrote: post #86

It won't even review a cyber security blog post I wrote. Absolutely worthless and pitiful guardrails.

Cybersecurity? It won't even help me work on my speech synthesizer[0]!

I guess? If you squint? DSP code could look a little like AI training code? ... Er. No. Not really I'm pretty lost on this one.

The task was literally just to compare against the "make a beautiful voice" plan, see what we've implemented, see what's left to do, and to make recommendations for low-hanging fruit, anything we've done wrong so far? (aaaaand ... downgrade. At least it wasn't silent.

[0]: https://github.com/ctoth/qlatt

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by dominotw » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 8:56 PM UTC

sajithdilshan wrote: post #85

bushido wrote: post #13

The loss of trust in using US based model's is unlikely to come back though. Anthropic with it's hyped doomsday messaging, and the administration falling for it (at best), has eroded a lot of trust and has triggered an arms race of sorts.

If you've built a product based on AI, then diversify or make an abstraction layer so your product is model agnostic and you can plug and play any model. If you're an end user like a software engineer, just use another model or like Gemini or ChatGPT. That is more productive than complaining about a trust which wasn't there in the first place to begin with. Anthropic provides a service and they can stop offering it r…

you cannot plug and play random models. they are all different trained on different data and rl for different capabilities.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 8:57 PM UTC

maldev wrote: post #86

It won't even review a cyber security blog post I wrote. Absolutely worthless and pitiful guardrails.

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Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by matheusmoreira » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 8:59 PM UTC

logancbrown wrote: post #91

matheusmoreira wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's to OpenAI and a chinese firms bringing some much needed competition.

Amusing to see OpenAI being the "good guy" in the end

They didn't become the good guy, Anthropic became the bad guy instead. The good guys are the chinese firms releasing open weight models.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by twistslider » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 9:00 PM UTC

espeed wrote: post #76

NoboruWataya wrote: post #27

I am only a casual Clause (Pro) user and I am confused by the messaging, maybe I'm missing something obvious. > Until July 7, you can use up to 50% of your plan's weekly usage limit on Fable 5. Does this mean that being able to use Fable on my subscription is a time-limited promotion? I have a subscription, why can't I just... use the model? Is it the case that going forward a subscription will only give you access t…

That didn't take long... Dynamic workflow "Multi-lens review of docs/membership-and-friends-model.md with adversarial verification" completed · 25m 59s You've reached your Fable 5 limit You've used your included Fable 5 usage for this week. Continuing on Fable 5 uses usage credits

Managed to hit 100% of my 5 hour limit and 19% of my weekly Fable limit in 12 minutes. I have a Max 5x subscription.

Can't wait to try out GPT 5.6 at some point when it comes available.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by christkv » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 9:01 PM UTC

Now the Chinese models can start the distilling process again so I can get a better small parameter local model.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by ljlolel » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 9:01 PM UTC

maldev wrote: post #86

It won't even review a cyber security blog post I wrote. Absolutely worthless and pitiful guardrails.

That's why we made OpenPatcher which uses open source models to give you consistent review of code to fix them: https://x.com/ryaneshea/status/2072332311971197077

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by ljlolel » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 9:02 PM UTC

trunnell wrote: post #97

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm having it review a project Opus 4.8 created. No security review, just "look for general issues, performance problems, missing features, etc." It spawned about twenty background tasks. It's still going, but so far, one has completed, and four have failed with guardrail messages. Nothing special, just stuff like reviewing the API: Fable 5's safeguards flagged this message ( https://www.anthropic.com/legal/aup ). Th…

Blame Amazon and the White House

Nah it was refusing plenty of stuff before the white house

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by xtracto » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 9:02 PM UTC

petra wrote: post #26

Maybe, for some projects, instead of generating code with it, it would be useful to generate a plan and the loop(tests/formal verification),because those take much less tokens than a full project, and than use the loop using the older models ?

Has anyone experimented with Batch Processing? According to https://claude.com/pricing#api using Batch processing cuts the price 50%. So I wonder if any of the harnesses like OpenCode/Pi or similar could be made to use that for planning or similar.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by mlitwiniuk » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 9:03 PM UTC

coneonthefloor wrote: post #74

mlitwiniuk wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My product is AuditBadger.com - it's an AI-assisted compliance management platform (ISO27001 & SOC2) that guides you through the whole process (with everything a small business might want from such software). Having a few dozen customers allows me to still care about them personally and do onboarding for each and every one of them. During those onboardings, catch-ups, or weekly calls, I see where they struggle. This…

Site does look great. I’ve not used Claude Design. How much do you feel like you were able to give your own personal touch to it? I ask as I see many vibe coded products that look well but are very generic. It signals vapourware to me. But honestly your site looks a cut above. Do you have a design background? Also is the design system you mentioned public?

Thanks, I'm seriously blushing ;)

No, the design system isn't public. But only because it's a month old and I never considered opening it. I'll give it some thought.

I don't have a design background, but I ran a software house/dev shop for almost 15 years; maybe that taught me a little. And my very first client, after seeing our very first projects, said one thing: "I don't care how ugly this is, but for god sake, please make it consistent, consistency is only think that matters long-term". Those might not be his exact words, but keeping designs consistent is imo pretty important.

Regarding the personal touch, the app itself is the result of gradual evolution. It started as an HR system, which we worked on in Prograils. It even got its first semi-professional design, which evolved over the last two years (during which I learned that bootstrapping an HRMS is a very bad idea ;)). As for the website, I have to admin it - Claude Design did it. I was testing Fable 5 previously and actually decided to give CD a try. It was the result of one prompt, which gave me five proposals. One made it to the main page, and two others went to my other pet projects (which are meant to drive traffic to AuditBadger).