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Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I'm glad to see UBNT in this space. I've always used ZFS because it's vastly superior to other options. When I see storage companies building without fault tolerance, or without a merkle tree (so that you can backup deltas efficiently without having to recompute them) it's a sign their marketing team has more influence over the company than their engineers. Sadly, the few ZFS COTS options have been somewhat underpowe…

What's UBNT?

Ubiquity Networks Inc.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I've recently been convinced to implement a Unifi stack for my home network. I got a Cloud Gateway, a 10G switch and a couple WiFi APs. The Cloud Gateway will be sold or given away. It's utter crap. I'm now building an OpenWRT container on IncusOS as my Internet gateway/router. The switch is meh. It's easy to admin, which is nice - though I'm having to run UnifiOS on another container on said IncusOS. The APs are fin…

I love by Dream Machine Pro. Seems to just work and keep everything up to date. I have it running my security cameras as well and it has been pretty much bullet proof. What needs do you have for a router that the Cloud Gateway is missing or is bad at? A PiHole equivalent is about all I can think I'm missing.

+1 for Dream Machine Pro. Own one at home and have stretched them pretty far in SMB environments.

I use it with 8 APs in a mesh and a few switches, all UI, and it just works. I also have a lot of success helping out some local SMBs by setting up UI for them.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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They did it for a very short time. The community backlash was so bad that they recanted immediately. I'm not at all surprised that Ubiquiti is getting ahead of that and promising it from the start.

> Synology recanted immediately Is that correct? Looking at a common flagship model, the 4-Bay DS925+ and then the "Compatibility list" here https://www.synology.com/en-global/compatibility?search_by=d... I see only Synology branded drives. Synology do not make their own hard drives. They are rebadged.

It's true for HDDs. They don't maintain a list of compatible third-party HDDs, but you use them perfectly fine. No errors, drive health monitoring works, etc.

https://www.guru3d.com/story/synology-reverses-policy-bannin...

>Now, with the release of DSM 7.3, Synology has quietly walked the policy back. Third-party hard drives and 2.5-inch SATA SSDs can once again be used without triggering warning messages or reduced functionality. Drives from Seagate, WD, and others will work exactly as they did before—complete with full monitoring, alerts, and storage features.

NVMe SSDs are different.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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Genuine question, if you're running unifi, why don't you want the management vm? Synology makes a decent NAS without the controller.

Synology hardware stopped being decent a while ago.

Plus their drive type restrictions which are poison in a cost-sensitive NAS.

(Seemingly rolled back recently, but a roll back can be easily rolled back itself. I don't trust them enough to count on that not happening.)

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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How does that work now they are a subsidiary of SpaceX? Does that make the rotting corpse of Twitter public again?

Yes. Although the amount of SpaceX stock that's available for public is fairly little.

And those classes available for the public has less voting rights than Elons stock so even worse.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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I was literally looking today to see if there was any news on this, because it’s been widely assumed that they’d release it. $4000 is… a lot. I can buy a used CSE-846 for about 1/4 of that, an X10–era mobo for a few hundred bucks, and have 1.5x the bays (tbf, also 4U instead of 3U). Managing ZFS is just not that hard; it’s not Ceph. If you want easy mode, throw TrueNAS on it, and you’ll get an awesome UX that abstrac…

Think about the competitors - they're aiming at the Synology RackStations and similar, which are $3-5k without drives.

The segment UI and Synology are in are 10x more than the minisforum, beelink, qnap, cwwk type devices, but still 1/10 of the price of getting started in enterprise gear from HPe, Dell, Pure, etc.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

The cost is just insane though. $4-$500 for a camera that I can get equivalent specs for $50-100.

IME those sub-$100 Chinese IP cameras have you at the mercy of whatever firmware they cut from the master branch the week they shipped it. People don't buy UI because they win on specs-per-dollar. They buy it because they win on results-per-dollar.

Re: Ubiquiti: Enterprise NAS, Built on ZFS

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What's UBNT?

Stock symbol for Ubquiti, the company being discussed.

Thanks. I wish people could just say the company name instead of using random aliases, but I guess it's some sort of cultural thing.
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