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Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Yes, the easy part is still there.

Funny, working in product I think designing the right thing is far more difficult and interesting than just typing in source code.

You're the second person itt using an expression "typing in code". Guys I understand your excitement now that you too finally can make computers do what you want but it's not how programming worked at all.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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It's bittersweet, isn't it. Software is solved, but at a terrible cost.

This reminds me of the Go champion who announced he was giving up the game after a computer beat him. It’s as if a runner were to give up running when beaten by a horse or a car. It suggests they may have had unexamined and perhaps somewhat strange reasons for doing the activity in the first place. People have difficulty accepting just how significant their limitations actually are. We design our world to hide those…

I'm not giving up the career. And I certainly don't feel left behind: I'm good at programming, and I still have a substantial edge over non-programmers here in meaningfully using agents (as of June 2026). The terrible cost refers to sucking all the joy of the process as the mechanized activity makes the actual intellectual part of the work redundant, if you can understand.

Software development is now another fake job.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Use whatever labels you want, apply charitable reading and I'm sure even you could understand what I mean here. Clearly there are at least two sorts of tasks (or used to anyways) in "software engineering" as a whole, one more mechanical and one more about thinking.

It just shows you haven't programmed computers much so your opinion is largely speculative.

What exactly shows that? That I think thinking about code/design and typing code are two different activities? Maybe you disagree, around myself and my peers that'd be a minority perspective, but it's not speculative, based on real experience.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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It's bittersweet, isn't it. Software is solved, but at a terrible cost.

Software isn't solved. 'Coding' is, according to the people of Claude. Coding (programming) is a tedious and expensive part of software engineering. There's other parts AI isn't doing, such as understanding and refining requirements, and delivery + accountability.

Accountability?!?! Outside medical software, and similar niches, I see little accountability in the software industry.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Rapid development of a cycle accurate Intellivision emulator, much of it unsupervised. (four part series)

https://keanw.com/2026/03/a-diary-of-an-agentic-retro-gamer-...

https://keanw.com/2026/04/a-diary-of-an-agentic-retro-gamer-...

https://keanw.com/2026/04/a-diary-of-an-agentic-retro-gamer-...

https://keanw.com/2026/05/a-diary-of-an-agentic-retro-gamer-...

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

#126
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Funny, working in product I think designing the right thing is far more difficult and interesting than just typing in source code.

You're the second person itt using an expression "typing in code". Guys I understand your excitement now that you too finally can make computers do what you want but it's not how programming worked at all.

Yeah I cut my teeth on 6502 assembly and know IDK how many languages. I get it.

It’s still typing in code.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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What specific inventions in those areas? Electricity runs from simple batteries (600 BCE) to today’s power grids. RF was predicted but not demonstrated by Maxwell in the 1860’s. His work built on Faraday’s (1840’s) and Coulomb’s (1780’s). Coulomb built on Franklin and Newton, among others. Or do you mean Marconi and Tesla, who merely implemented what Maxwell predicted? The same is true for lasers and transistors but…

Those are the specific inventions.

Great. So when you say electricity, do you mean the batteries of 600BCE and the precursors before them?

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Those are the specific inventions.

> Those are the specific inventions. In what way is electricity an invention? Electricity is a physical phenomenon. Various machines for doing work with electrical energy, storing electrical energy, converting other types of energy to electrical energy, etc. are certainly inventions... Heck, rubbing an amber rod with a fur is an invention. The static charge transferred is not.

Invention, discovery..does not matter. There was a point in time when humanity was oblivious to the phenomenon and then there was a point when we were not and we could generate and use it.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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post #82

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What specific inventions in those areas? Electricity runs from simple batteries (600 BCE) to today’s power grids. RF was predicted but not demonstrated by Maxwell in the 1860’s. His work built on Faraday’s (1840’s) and Coulomb’s (1780’s). Coulomb built on Franklin and Newton, among others. Or do you mean Marconi and Tesla, who merely implemented what Maxwell predicted? The same is true for lasers and transistors but…

I would put it differently. Those inventions came from humans interacting with the physical world. When LLMs were first introduced, they didn't have much of a feedback loop. They wrote code, but they couldn't compile it. Not surprisingly, the code had bugs. Now, they run with harnesses that allow them to compile the code, and react to the issues they observe. They can fix their own bugs and solve problems that they c…

> it seems highly likely that they will be able to "invent" things based on feedback they receive while working towards goals...

I don't think so. Imagine a model trained on data from an Internet that believes in hypothesis that earth is the center of the world. Even if you feed all the physical data, I don't think it can come up with the idea that all of its training data was wrong.

This might be also a good argument for why this LLMs are not "intelligent". You can feed contradicting training data all day and it will accept it without bating an eye. But that won't work with an entity that is truly intelligent.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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> Those are the specific inventions. In what way is electricity an invention? Electricity is a physical phenomenon. Various machines for doing work with electrical energy, storing electrical energy, converting other types of energy to electrical energy, etc. are certainly inventions... Heck, rubbing an amber rod with a fur is an invention. The static charge transferred is not.

Invention, discovery..does not matter. There was a point in time when humanity was oblivious to the phenomenon and then there was a point when we were not and we could generate and use it.

This is so false. Try doing the research to back up your risible claim.

Tell me the date when humanity went from oblivious to electricity to generating and using it.

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