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Apple boss Tim Cook says prices to rise due to memory chip costs

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Re: Apple boss Tim Cook says prices to rise due to memory chip costs

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Ohhh look, the companies that started the problem have to raise the price! sure yes, I will not buy any product, untill price goes down. And others should do, but each on their own. Price hikes on my food, home and now tech. I have a pocket and a voice, and I will stop buying any product.

Re: Apple boss Tim Cook says prices to rise due to memory chip costs

#122

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Or they'll start making cheap phones with <=2GB of RAM again and people will have to write software that uses memory efficiently (the horror).

This is low-key a dream of mine. That we _start_ hyper-optimizing code to use less RAM and resources overall.

Forget hyper-optimizing, how about we just stop throwing away gigabytes for no reward? If we get there, then we can start thinking about maybe actually optimizing anything

Re: Apple boss Tim Cook says prices to rise due to memory chip costs

#123

Ohhh look, the companies that started the problem have to raise the price! sure yes, I will not buy any product, untill price goes down. And others should do, but each on their own. Price hikes on my food, home and now tech. I have a pocket and a voice, and I will stop buying any product.

Why did Apple start the problem?

Re: Apple boss Tim Cook says prices to rise due to memory chip costs

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For a start, most of the world does not use text messages. They use WhatsApp. (Apart from a few countries where WeChat, Telegram or Line are more popular.) As far as I know the US is the only country that still uses SMS/RCS.

So write a WhatsApp client for your phone and convince the EU to make them interoperate with you.

I don't use WhatsApp, I use Signal, Messenger, iMessage and Snapchat (yes I know but these things have inertia). I'm not exactly alone here. You'd need to write third-party clients for all those apps as well.

Re: Apple boss Tim Cook says prices to rise due to memory chip costs

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post #123

Ohhh look, the companies that started the problem have to raise the price! sure yes, I will not buy any product, untill price goes down. And others should do, but each on their own. Price hikes on my food, home and now tech. I have a pocket and a voice, and I will stop buying any product.

Why did Apple start the problem?

I said "Companies", meaning many companies not just Apple. They worked all together somehow to achieve the shortage and the raise the price.

Re: Apple boss Tim Cook says prices to rise due to memory chip costs

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Why did Apple start the problem?

I said "Companies", meaning many companies not just Apple. They worked all together somehow to achieve the shortage and the raise the price.

I don’t think you understand how supply chains work.

Re: Apple boss Tim Cook says prices to rise due to memory chip costs

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Its not integrated to the SoC, it is soldered to the mainboard though.

The memory is not integrated into the SoC die itself, but it is packaged alongside the SoC rather than being separately mounted.

At Apple scale I would have thought that makes it cheaper, not more expensive.

Re: Apple boss Tim Cook says prices to rise due to memory chip costs

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Why does it need to be Android? Make a phone that will send text messages and run a web browser and all the people who just need a phone will buy it to save $200. Also, when software is poorly optimized that implies it is possible to optimize it.

Web browsing is the most resource intensive task given how bloated modern websites are. It’s easer to imagine a cheap phone with a set of optimised native apps but the problem is tech giants are not interested in reducing footprint of their apps at the same time actively hostile to 3rd party clients.

> given how bloated modern websites are. It’s easer to imagine a cheap phone with a set of optimised native apps

The age old truism in tech is that it's easier to hyper-optimize a single chokepoint (i.e. the platform) than trust distributed actors to each optimize their own thing (i.e. app developers).

Because optimization takes money. Sometimes lots. And distributed non-platform actors have their own priorities like features.

That's why you get enormous success stories like x86, TCP/IP, HTTPx, and Javascript engines providing increased performance, but the "developers as a whole self-optimize" dream remains a perpetual mirage.

(Outside of gaming console hardware, and even there arguably true before middleware)

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