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Post by mertd »

Irregardless wrote: post #62

You can have 50% of an Ultrabook for 100% of the price. Total savings of up to negative 50%! How could anyone resist? Only Apple can list 'Status Symbol' as one of the perks of their products, and I have a feeling that's one of the main features the average consumer wants in a tablet. Aside from the toy/gimmick factor and browsing the internet easily from bed (or the toilet), I'm just not seeing the mass appeal of th…

It has an i5, pretty good screen, USB 3 and the light form factor. Which half is missing from the equation?

Re: Surface with Windows 8 Pro – Pricing

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Post by mertd »

35636 wrote: post #14
ConstantineXVI wrote: post #5

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Not for a laptop. It's right in line with the MacBook Air.

Better in most ways. The $999 Surface Pro has the same specs as the $1,200 MBA, only high resolution, lighter, and with a touch screen.

Minus the keyboard :). Add that and the price is in line with the MBA. Surface Pro is still the better deal in my opinion, because of the newer CPU and better screen.

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Post by wvenable »

bjustin wrote: post #116
wvenable wrote: post #98

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The 64GB iPad is $699 vs. $899 for the Surface Pro. That's not double. I'd say that's entirely in the same market. In my opinion the Surface Pro is better value since it is a full PC.

The cheapest version of a device gets people in the door. Many people will, rightly or wrongly, compare the $499 iPad 4 with the $899 Surface Pro. That one has 16 GB of space and the other has 64 GB (well more like 48 GB since Windows and Office take a lot of space) comes into play after people are thinking the iPad is way cheaper than the Surface Pro.

The Surface Pro isn't the cheapest Surface device (it even has "Pro" right there in the name).

The cheapest iPad is still more expensive than most Android tablets.

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Post by majorlazer »

bjustin wrote: post #116
wvenable wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 64GB iPad is $699 vs. $899 for the Surface Pro. That's not double. I'd say that's entirely in the same market. In my opinion the Surface Pro is better value since it is a full PC.

The cheapest version of a device gets people in the door. Many people will, rightly or wrongly, compare the $499 iPad 4 with the $899 Surface Pro. That one has 16 GB of space and the other has 64 GB (well more like 48 GB since Windows and Office take a lot of space) comes into play after people are thinking the iPad is way cheaper than the Surface Pro.

Why not compare the $499 iPad to the Surface RT?

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Post by Nikaido »

Aardwolf wrote: post #56
untog wrote: post #9

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Well, it's a full-fledged laptop that has no keyboard. A keyboard will cost you more- a type cover is about $149, right?

Wow seriously? I bought a mechanical keyboard with gold plated switches for each single key for that price!

The markup on the typecover is hard to justify when looking at the competition. The keyboard on the asus transformer cost about the same except that it also has a big battery inside, extending the battery life of the tablet when used in laptop mode.

And it can be used as a laptop, in your bed, in your lap.. not like the Surface RT which doesn't rely on the type cover but a stand that is only stable when put on a desk or table.

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Post by erikpukinskis »

gonehome wrote: post #120
tluyben2 wrote: post #113

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> The more puzzling thing to me is, why do so many people actually think that these people say what they really believe and really believe what they say? Because most people here are developers? In most manager courses one of the lessons is; focus not on what people say but why they say it. Those things are often not the same thing. Ballmer (etc) are in the eye of the press, which means that not only do his words inf…

I'm not sure if I agree that that's what happened in this case. I think Ballmer actually believed what he said which is why they were so slow to react and is a part of the problem. Google's reaction is a good example. After the iPhone launched in 2007 They immediately threw out the original blackberry like android device they were planning to release first and focused on their more iPhone like variant. Microsoft just…

> Microsoft just mocked Apple and did nothing.

I'm no Microsoft fan, but this is hyperbole. They release Windows Phone 7, widely regarded as a credible response, two and a half years after the iPhone came out. That's not exactly record time, but my guess is some serious hammers came down at Microsoft when iPhone launched.

Re: Surface with Windows 8 Pro – Pricing

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Post by gonehome »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #126
gonehome wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if I agree that that's what happened in this case. I think Ballmer actually believed what he said which is why they were so slow to react and is a part of the problem. Google's reaction is a good example. After the iPhone launched in 2007 They immediately threw out the original blackberry like android device they were planning to release first and focused on their more iPhone like variant. Microsoft just…

> Microsoft just mocked Apple and did nothing. I'm no Microsoft fan, but this is hyperbole. They release Windows Phone 7, widely regarded as a credible response, two and a half years after the iPhone came out. That's not exactly record time, but my guess is some serious hammers came down at Microsoft when iPhone launched.

I saw the two and a half year delay as the result of doing nothing until they realized they'd made a mistake.
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