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Re: Core PPI up 9.6% annualized (0.8% MoM) in May

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Post by smilliken »

rsync wrote: post #110
UncleMeat wrote: post #103

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A literal toddler for president. Swings his dick around and manages to fuck up global supply chains. Now he is back online talking about invading Iran and taking all of its oil infrastructure.

No. A figurative toddler. A literal toddler would be one to two years old. I have five figures of karma with which to fight this battle.

A literal toddler is one who can read.

I'm reminded of a Simpson's episode where Arnold Shwarzenegger is elected as President, given 5 stacks of papers with briefs of options, and he picks one at random without reading it saying "I was elected to lead, not to read!"

Re: Core PPI up 9.6% annualized (0.8% MoM) in May

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Post by timacles »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #118
timacles wrote: post #97

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Don’t blame regular people when billions were spent on lies, disinformation campaigns and rug pulls. We are being systematically manipulated. I know plenty of good honest people who simply don’t know what’s going on and cannot navigate today’s political landscape

In the attention economy I think there is still plenty of blame to assign to the voters.. they are the ones that care more about culture war topics then the peace and prosperity of their children.

OK sure go blame them. Now what do you have?

Re: Core PPI up 9.6% annualized (0.8% MoM) in May

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Post by wat10000 »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #119
wat10000 wrote: post #53

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Voting works fine, people just don't do it very much. People complain about their choices. Meanwhile, there's atrocious turnout in the primaries which determine those choices.

How does more voting resolve anything? Split up fans are still split opinions and bad politicians are still bad politicians. A 51 49 election still has the same outcome if 10 million or 100 million people voted. It seems to me that people will need to not only vote but change their voting criteria

I'm specifically thinking of the primaries here, where you often have more than two candidates and it's not a 51/49 split. I think it's very likely that the people who currently sit out the primaries would vote differently from the people who show up. It's a pretty small minority who vote in primaries, and those who do will tend to be a lot more politically active than average.

Far too many people complain about the bad candidates in the general, and don't do the most basic thing to influence that.

Re: Core PPI up 9.6% annualized (0.8% MoM) in May

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Post by s1artibartfast »

wat10000 wrote: post #123
s1artibartfast wrote: post #119

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How does more voting resolve anything? Split up fans are still split opinions and bad politicians are still bad politicians. A 51 49 election still has the same outcome if 10 million or 100 million people voted. It seems to me that people will need to not only vote but change their voting criteria

I'm specifically thinking of the primaries here, where you often have more than two candidates and it's not a 51/49 split. I think it's very likely that the people who currently sit out the primaries would vote differently from the people who show up. It's a pretty small minority who vote in primaries, and those who do will tend to be a lot more politically active than average. Far too many people complain about the…

Ah. One of the various forms of ranked choice or approval voting in the general would also solve this.

I agree that mixing of the party primary system and the governmental election process is a problem leading to dominance of finge views.

Re: Core PPI up 9.6% annualized (0.8% MoM) in May

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Post by s1artibartfast »

timacles wrote: post #122
s1artibartfast wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the attention economy I think there is still plenty of blame to assign to the voters.. they are the ones that care more about culture war topics then the peace and prosperity of their children.

OK sure go blame them. Now what do you have?

The idea that the policially interested should focus on their attention on their priorities and vote for them. Reward politicians with your values.

Also, the federal government should return more political footballs to the local level to stop distracting from their actual jobs

Re: Core PPI up 9.6% annualized (0.8% MoM) in May

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Post by applicative »

khriss wrote: post #50

What makes this appalling is that the current situation is entirely the result of deliberate choice by the president. I know there will be a lot of commenters rushing in to breathlessly claim 'Inflation was worse under Biden!'. However, there is a difference between inflation being the result of a literal 'once a 100 year' global pandemic and Trump deciding to attack Iran because he needed to remove attention from hi…

* Jan 8 2026 Iran begins the longest internet blackout in universal world history due to massive protests over economic issues.

Re: Core PPI up 9.6% annualized (0.8% MoM) in May

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Post by thunky »

win311fwg wrote: post #22
catigula wrote: post #13

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Incorrect. You can merely lie and spend money and get elected and then do the opposite. Rinse and repeat. See: John Fetterman. It doesn't work. It's fundamentally broken.

Their actions are recorded. You have full view if they are failing to do their job, and when they fail to do their job it is on you as their employer to bring the consequences. What did the people who hired John Fetterman do to stop his unacceptable behaviour? Nothing, right? That's the problem. Employees are not magical beings. They are simple, imperfect humans that need constant management. But there is this strang…

> It is not fundamentally broken

It's corrupted by money, bribery, gerrymandering, an electoral system that is anti-democratic, and a two party system that has as a joint monolopy on power via division.

Corrupt means broken.

Re: Core PPI up 9.6% annualized (0.8% MoM) in May

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Post by thunky »

triceratops wrote: post #21
avaer wrote: post #15

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Since many people reading this probably don't know: voting is not the only, or even the original form of democracy. Representatives in ancient democracies were selected by sortition, which is based on statistics, not popularity or money.

The only way to peacefully change how representatives are selected is...voting.

Nobody voted in Kamala Harris and somehow she became the only choice besides Trump.

Re: Core PPI up 9.6% annualized (0.8% MoM) in May

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Post by win311fwg »

thunky wrote: post #127
win311fwg wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their actions are recorded. You have full view if they are failing to do their job, and when they fail to do their job it is on you as their employer to bring the consequences. What did the people who hired John Fetterman do to stop his unacceptable behaviour? Nothing, right? That's the problem. Employees are not magical beings. They are simple, imperfect humans that need constant management. But there is this strang…

> It is not fundamentally broken It's corrupted by money, bribery, gerrymandering, an electoral system that is anti-democratic, and a two party system that has as a joint monolopy on power via division. Corrupt means broken.

It is broken. As we already discussed, the employers are not fulfilling their duty as the employer. They think they can spend all day, every day, on the golf corse, metaphorically speaking, and everything will function hunky dory. That doesn't happen in the real world. Employees need management. Always have, always will.

It is not fundamentally broken. It is fixable by the people stepping up and doing what an employer needs to do. The reluctance to want to roll up sleeves is understandable, but magic doesn't exist. It is either let the employees run wild or stand up and manage them. Your choice.

Re: Core PPI up 9.6% annualized (0.8% MoM) in May

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Post by pstuart »

nickff wrote: post #105
pixelatedindex wrote: post #98

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Ironic because Trump said (and did) far worse things in 2016 and didn’t affect him one bit

I purposely avoided any comparison between Clinton and other presidents, as many have done bad things, and it is difficult to rank them all. I just wanted to address the parent comment's minimization of Clinton's wrong-doing, as evidenced by this quote: "l'affaire de bj was a willful attempt to take the president's private life public"

What Clinton did was absolutely wrong, but that was a personal affair.

In life and the law, intentions are foundational for evaluating people's actions.

The scandalizing of Clinton's behavior was only about political slander, mud slinging. Your pearl clutching is performative and partisan.

There's so much to not like about the Dems, and it's primarily in the fact that DNC leadership is corrupt and they are only interested in serving themselves and their patrons. But the party members as a whole do work on trying to do good governance. They often fail, but on the intentions front, it's not disagreable.

Counter this to the modern day GOP -- they've been coopted by the evangelicals and white nationalists, and the only thing they want to govern is demanding that their theology is the law of the land. No thank you.

I have respect for old-school conservatives who cared about limited government -- I totally agree with that concept but differ on how those limits are set.

I have no party affiliation and loath partisan politics, but with the two-party system one has to choose the least worst.

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