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Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Post by jarjoura »

Can anyone help me understand why this particular issue is any different than Anthropic training its models with its brand of moral judgement since day one? I've always been turned off by their particular stances on things they bake into their models that steer users in directions.

Maybe this is just a different set of people now realizing that Anthropic does this and has always done this?

Do not forget that this company is launching this thing at the moment it's trying to IPO. It's not rocket science that their very public steering/denial claim is really just them hinting to interested investors that their moat is absolute.

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Post by shimman »

Cpoll wrote: post #107
xvector wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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How does US regulatory capture do anything to impede PRC's advance?

Nothing, they are just trying to scare monger the public and prime the pump for a massive bailout when it crashes out because apparently China are the big bad meanies.

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Post by itintheory »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #91
californical wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I cancelled my Claude subscription yesterday after learning about their attitude of intentionally sabotaging their paying customers. Especially after trying Fable yesterday for some benign projects and being unimpressive relative to opus. Rolling it back is the right move, but I’m still not convinced that using them is in my best interest anymore, I’m investigating open source cloud providers now.

Opus is nowhere close to Fable. Fable feels at least one generation ahead to me. https://x.com/hyperagentapp/status/2064396004032463157 Edit: OpenAI will launch a similar model soon and I can't wait. We are entering a new era of agents.

Care to share any specifics?

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Post by [deleted] »

inferniac wrote: post #104
Sol- wrote: post #46

This has dampened my opinion on Anthropic quite a bit. It's difficult to take their marketing for AI as an empowering technology seriously when they are quite clear in their new deployments that they do not mean empowering for you , but empowering for them and organizations that are in their (or the US government's, despite Anthropics performative disagreements with the administration) good graces. You are allowed to…

Wouldnt call their goverment disagreements performative, they genuinely believe they should be the only ones deciding what AI can and cannot do

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Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Post by raincole »

xvector wrote: post #95
thewebguyd wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget their push for full regulatory capture in the name of "safety" as well so they can pull the ladder up behind them before anyone else has an equally capable model and releases it without the anti-competitive safeguards, while also pushing to completely ban open weight models, or any model trained on a certain level of compute without "rigorous" government testing and validation (which I'm sure, they'll co…

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What backward logic is this? PRC doesn't give a fuck about how US regulates AI companies. Pushing more regulation would ensure that Chinese companies catch up sooner. If you think otherwise you need to think harder.

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Post by olbeardGear »

Sol- wrote: post #46

This has dampened my opinion on Anthropic quite a bit. It's difficult to take their marketing for AI as an empowering technology seriously when they are quite clear in their new deployments that they do not mean empowering for you , but empowering for them and organizations that are in their (or the US government's, despite Anthropics performative disagreements with the administration) good graces. You are allowed to…

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Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Post by micromacrofoot »

literalAardvark wrote: post #42
micromacrofoot wrote: post #25

incredible marketing from anthropic with all the "it's too dangerous" bullshit

It's not entirely bullshit, but they're continuing to be a terrible company with great products.

you really think they're building anything that's too dangerous for public release though? that's the BS

Re: Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails

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Post by conjectures »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #91
californical wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I cancelled my Claude subscription yesterday after learning about their attitude of intentionally sabotaging their paying customers. Especially after trying Fable yesterday for some benign projects and being unimpressive relative to opus. Rolling it back is the right move, but I’m still not convinced that using them is in my best interest anymore, I’m investigating open source cloud providers now.

Opus is nowhere close to Fable. Fable feels at least one generation ahead to me. https://x.com/hyperagentapp/status/2064396004032463157 Edit: OpenAI will launch a similar model soon and I can't wait. We are entering a new era of agents.

What does this even mean?
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