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Albania Is Not for Sale: Kushner's $4B Resort Triggers'Flamingo Revolution'

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Re: Albania Is Not for Sale: Kushner's $4B Resort Triggers'Flamingo Revolution'

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Post by agnosticmantis »

renegade-otter wrote: post #70
toasty228 wrote: post #60

The rich are getting too openly greedy and complacent again, they're slowly forgetting about history, can't wait to see how it pans out in the next decades. https://www.prosperosisle.org/spip.php?article1196

Which is ironic because Rae Kushner - his grandmother - is a legend. She has gone through some things. Now her grandson is wrecking Europe. https://www.npr.org/2018/05/04/560224531/trump-stories-kushn...

Would you elaborate why she's considered a legend?

She was certainly a victim and a refugee, of which we have many today, most being denied admission to the US. Are those all legends too?

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Post by Ccecil »

lifestyleguru wrote: post #86
renegade-otter wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is ironic because Rae Kushner - his grandmother - is a legend. She has gone through some things. Now her grandson is wrecking Europe. https://www.npr.org/2018/05/04/560224531/trump-stories-kushn...

Present America is real estate developers all the way down.

Real estate, Crypto and AI make up the 3 legged stool of US investment (from my perspective).

In my area which is over 1/3 retired people this is where the majority of their investments seem to lie. Those who are simply relying on 401k or other investments are also at risk due to the lack of diversification. Since their investments are tied to those 3 things.

If any of the legs of the stool go out...the whole thing goes down.

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Post by woodpanel »

dominotw wrote: post #68
whatever1 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget that resorts et al typically belong to international capital, and the tourists rarely leave the premises. So what does the local economy get out of it? A few maids salary to clean up the tourist's shit?

what about tax revenue ?

Tax revenue, local jobs, and the possiblity for entrepreneurs to build businesses around that possibility of tourists leaving the premise.

With all that being said, I still think that overreliance on tourism is bad for a place in principle. Those places fossilize, the wealth of tourists overwhelmes local culture, it will create wrong incentives, draw in junk vendors, pick-pocketers, and AirBnB vultures making life more miserable for the locals. One can also be certain that the local hospitality operators will try to pass the least possible amount to locals by finding even cheaper employees from god knows where.

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Post by toasty228 »

hammock wrote: post #101
toasty228 wrote: post #69

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Is this meant to be an anti-Jewish remark? Or just eugenicist more generally

Mostly anti parasitic, all shared common traits between all the sociopaths in charge of big companies/institutions not my problem, it's a good line of defense I admit, but I fear it works less and less since people see through the bs more easily these days.

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Post by hedora »

hereweare26 wrote: post #73
roysting wrote: post #55

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This kind of talk used to be a lot more common in our grandparents' time. It's sad to see the best and the brightest of our times going back to it.

Your point is that the rhetoric of the late 1800s running into WWII was, by far, the worst thing that happened during that time period, just like now?

I emphatically disagree.

However, there was widespread vilification of cephalopods on all sides of multiple wars during that time period:

https://neverwasmag.com/2017/08/the-octopus-in-political-car...

(To be clear, I don’t hate any sea creatures.)

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Post by avgDev »

nullorempty wrote: post #117
toasty228 wrote: post #60

The rich are getting too openly greedy and complacent again, they're slowly forgetting about history, can't wait to see how it pans out in the next decades. https://www.prosperosisle.org/spip.php?article1196

All the great art should teach us that we can't take riches to the grave, it's too bad that this is being forgotten. Then again, may be they already figured out how to make their lives meaningfully longer. I often think what drives 80 year old Bidens and Trumps to live the stressful POTUS life. And I can think of only one incentive. Weird thoughts, but otherwise the dots just don't connect.

Different people are driven by different things. Some people genuinely want to serve their nation and being a president is a huge honor to the family. You become part of history.

Others may be serving their own interests as it gives them access to all information.

Others may just want the power.

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Post by skinfaxi »

everyone wrote: post #64
stevenpetryk wrote: post #11

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automated war machines are plenty to stop an angry mob imo.

Yeah like the elites would have any clue how they operate, like any tech.

The Mexican cartels have kidnapped people and forced them to build telephony infra for them.

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

whatever1 wrote: post #58
annagio_ wrote: post #44

Half of Albania is butchered like this, beaches and green being destroyed to make resorts for the tourists to come. Go see Dermi or Vuno and then go see Borsh how clean it is, with no excavations at all or resorts being build.

Don't forget that resorts et al typically belong to international capital, and the tourists rarely leave the premises. So what does the local economy get out of it? A few maids salary to clean up the tourist's shit?

such a stark contrast with all the hysteria over foreign tourists avoiding the US due to Trump that was posted here a few days ago. "Oh noes Trump is destroying the tourist economy!!!" vs. "only a few maids salary to clean up the tourist's shit"

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Post by jappgar »

everyone wrote: post #63
graphime wrote: post #26

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> The ordinary people who did the electrical, plumbing, security, etc. know where you are, and no level of security will protect you from an angry mob with nothing to lose. Governments around the world already keep many locations/facilities secret and hidden from the public. They will simply arrest you, or worse, just kill you. What’s your solution to that?

Have you thought this through fully? In that case who'se supposed to be doing the arresting and killing? -- more ordinary people. Look at what happened to Ceaușescu for example. He went from being confident in his rule to dead 24 hours later.

Robots. That's why they're obsessed with AI and robotics.
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