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Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by lynndotpy »

mritun wrote: post #59
jacobsenscott wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It cannot be uninstalled

^ How can you make such an obviously wrong statement? Drag Music app to Trash, and that it! Like you do with any other app.

You can not do this on MacOS, at least on MacOS 26 on Apple Silicon without SIP disabled. I was:

- Unable to drag from the Applications drawer to Trash

- Unable to drag from the Spotlight search to Trash

- Unable to drag from Finder (in ~/Applications) to Trash

- Unable to delete (in Finder)

- Unable to delete (through rm in terminal).

This has been a bother for years across MacOS versions and I've tried variations of these, personally.

In the future, you might consider not denigrating others in this way. It is hard to save face when you are wrong. And it is hard for others to provide an avenue for you to save face while also pointing out that your statements are not true.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by SauntSolaire »

Terr_ wrote: post #91
spankalee wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use Apple Music, so opening their music player only wastes my attention and time. It happens if you accidentally press play on your headphones too. Then you need to quit Apple Music, for no good reason. And you can't uninstall it!

A similar scourge is encroaching on Google-branded android phones, as they add mandatory apps to cover stuff like supporting earbuds you don't own.

Are you talking about the pixel buds app? They ask you on setup if you want it installed, and you can uninstall it anytime. Seems pretty far from "mandatory".

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by lynndotpy »

joxdosba wrote: post #37
callc wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

cough cough hey EU you hearing this shit?

If you for whatever reason do not want the security benefits offered by SIP, you can turn it off. Of course, doing so just to get rid of Apple Music would tend to be a bit crazy.

The Apple Music thing bothers me and adds friction to my life every single day that I use MacOS.

We're on a tech forum where everyone here is aware (or at least can understand) how SIP is useful for the security model on MacOS. But for plenty of people with this problem, SIP is only the thing you learn can disable so you can immediately make your life a little better.

The crazy ones are Apple here, since this problem should not require disabling SIP to fix.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by ezfe »

titzer wrote: post #66

I still can't believe they killed iTunes. I used to have my entire digital music library in iTunes. Most of that was music I had ripped myself from CD, but I had a handful of albums I bought of iTunes and even some TV shows. When they wholesale abandoned iTunes and deleted from Mac OS in favor of...whatever Apple Music is, I knew I'd never trust them again. I searched for some decent mp3 players for a while, and even…

The Music app reads the same library and has the same core music-oriented functions as iTunes. Is the interface what you're missing?

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by overgard »

letrix wrote: post #34
riazrizvi wrote: post #28

It's very sad to see Apple using these lowbrow Microsoft tactics. Press ganging your users into launching your other shit product is brand cannibalism.

But why wouldn't pressing the Play button, when no media session is available, not open the music player?

Because the key press is ambiguous and probably unintentional if nothing is open. If the question is "play what?" then it shouldn't guess

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by 2dvisio »

Sharing as I’ve not seen this mentioned by anyone. I have achieved something similar with Karabiner and the custom reassignment of the play button to actually run Spotify and play the last song from there rather than Apple Music and it worked like a charm.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by sourcecodeplz »

titzer wrote: post #66

I still can't believe they killed iTunes. I used to have my entire digital music library in iTunes. Most of that was music I had ripped myself from CD, but I had a handful of albums I bought of iTunes and even some TV shows. When they wholesale abandoned iTunes and deleted from Mac OS in favor of...whatever Apple Music is, I knew I'd never trust them again. I searched for some decent mp3 players for a while, and even…

vibe code your own, implement some kind of yt-downloader? torrent downloader,etc, maybe some album art. hm might make one myself.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by xiaoyu2006 »

jxmorris12 wrote: post #73

> The app does absolutely no work in the background. It works by simply existing as a running process, thanks to having the same bundle identifier as the Music app. I love clever, low-or-no-code engineering solutions like this. You typically need to understand a systems very deeply to reach this level of elegance. In this case, one has to understand exactly what happens when the play button is pressed in Mac OS, how…

Reminds me that when I was in high school, my father used to regulate my gaming sessions with Apple ScreenTime. I changed the BundleIdentifier in my game's info.plist to `com.apple.systempreferences` and sign the .app with my own developer cert to bypass this. Was a lot of fun before got caught physically.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by mikepurvis »

lucideer wrote: post #86
jxmorris12 wrote: post #73

> The app does absolutely no work in the background. It works by simply existing as a running process, thanks to having the same bundle identifier as the Music app. I love clever, low-or-no-code engineering solutions like this. You typically need to understand a systems very deeply to reach this level of elegance. In this case, one has to understand exactly what happens when the play button is pressed in Mac OS, how…

On the contrary, this feels like a great (hypothetical) example of how to use coding agents effectively. > Codex as of right now would write some overpowered application that polls in a loop looking for Music App starts and killing them Most human engineers would also do this. It's a relative rarity to find someone writing things this elegantly. Similarly, if you asked an agent to "Stop the Apple Music app from launc…

Absolutely. Coding agents as a research companion to the curious are phenomenal, but they also amplify all the worst tendencies of "when all you have is a hammer".
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