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Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Does anyone actually uses these smaller models for coding? If so, how? I usually Opus everything. Is the play to plan/design/architect with a heavier model than delegate structured tasks to these smaller ones? Would appreciate to hear someone's opinion on having done and tested both paths.

Yes. Divide execution of a change into separate responsibilities. Designate the main chat as the "orchestrator", Opus. You designate a goal, then tell it to grind until it gets there using the following sub-agents in sequence:

1. Step execution (Sonnet): Work for 30 minutes / 100k tokens at the direction of the Orchestrator

2. Review (Opus): Scrutinize the previous step's work for errors, fidelity to the instructions, fix those and record opportunities to improve the agent configuration + tools to reduce errors and token usage (record those to a file).

3. Self-improvement (Opus): Implement the highest impact self-improvement items that don't require user intervention.

Repeat: Until orchestrator session token budget exhausted (set it to 1M or whatever).

The underlying rationale is to keep each step manageable to maximize adherence to instructions and minimize cost (even cached tokens cost something). Prompt tokens are much cheaper than generated, so to the extent Opus mostly reviews rather than drives that saves a lot too. Self-improvement steps are very expensive but the improvements compound, if you're going to run a job for days or weeks it's way more expensive not to do them.

Edit: I do this in Claude Code with the Anthropic models as well as Qwen family models for offline use.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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What's with the lack of Microsoft design language on the website? It's painfully obvious they're trying to emulate Anthropic's style here and it looks tacky.

That's neither Microsoft nor Anthropic design. It's from their acquisition of Inflection AI. Even Copilot mobile app design is basically what was Inflection's design

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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It's a start and I welcome competition but I don't think I ever used small cloud models like Haiku 4.5. They are cute but for serious coding they tend to waste your expensive time. And this certainly wont bring me back to GitHub Copilot which I cancelled yesterday. GitHub Copilot had competitive pricing until yesterday when they changed from per-request to one of the most expensive per-token quotas. Seriously, take a…

> "GitHub Copilot had competitive pricing until yesterday when they changed from per-request to one of the most expensive per-token quotas. Seriously, take a look at their burning subreddit for some laughs"

AI is expensive and it has been heavily subsidized. I you think $20/mo for Codex/Claude flat vs a more usage based model you're in for a shock. Especially once these companies go public and have to meet investor expectations.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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It's a start and I welcome competition but I don't think I ever used small cloud models like Haiku 4.5. They are cute but for serious coding they tend to waste your expensive time. And this certainly wont bring me back to GitHub Copilot which I cancelled yesterday. GitHub Copilot had competitive pricing until yesterday when they changed from per-request to one of the most expensive per-token quotas. Seriously, take a…

The small stuff has their place. I have this safari extension and needed a way to quickly title people's chat histories. Haiku is the fast cheap thing to come up with decent titles of blocks of text. I feel like there's a bunch of those little things lying around you need a model for. I'm even finding Apple's Foundation Model is super useful for stuff like that. Even summarizing an article. It's like equally awful at…

Small models are super useful. But I'm skeptical of their use for coding in particular, which is what this model is advertised for.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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post #82

It's a start and I welcome competition but I don't think I ever used small cloud models like Haiku 4.5. They are cute but for serious coding they tend to waste your expensive time. And this certainly wont bring me back to GitHub Copilot which I cancelled yesterday. GitHub Copilot had competitive pricing until yesterday when they changed from per-request to one of the most expensive per-token quotas. Seriously, take a…

The $20/month ChatGPT plan that comes with codex is good value. Even just have premium ChatGPT is nice. I get rate limited regularly but it still lets me do most things.

The $100/month is excellent value. I don’t understand how’s that not the default option for all professional developers. Unless people don’t produce any value writing code, like playing around and experimenting with vibe coding, I understand. But if software development is your actual income, and assuming you live in a wealthy country, $100/month is nothing for a tool like Codex.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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The $20/month ChatGPT plan that comes with codex is good value. Even just have premium ChatGPT is nice. I get rate limited regularly but it still lets me do most things.

The $100/month is excellent value. I don’t understand how’s that not the default option for all professional developers. Unless people don’t produce any value writing code, like playing around and experimenting with vibe coding, I understand. But if software development is your actual income, and assuming you live in a wealthy country, $100/month is nothing for a tool like Codex.

Work pays for my work stuff and I have both claude and codex there. On the personal side I sometimes go days without using it. It's more like my assistant to do annoying terminal shit on my home computer and like personal projects I guess. It's plenty for that.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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Scroll wheel hijacked on this entire domain

Fix: (() => { const KILL = ['wheel', 'mousewheel', 'DOMMouseScroll', 'touchmove']; const block = e => e.stopImmediatePropagation(); for (const t of KILL) { window.addEventListener(t, block, { capture: true, passive: true }); document.addEventListener(t, block, { capture: true, passive: true }); } document.documentElement.classList.remove('lenis','lenis-smooth','lenis-scrolling','lenis-stopped'); console.log('Scroll h…

The fix is to close the tab.

Re: MAI-Code-1-Flash

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What's with the lack of Microsoft design language on the website? It's painfully obvious they're trying to emulate Anthropic's style here and it looks tacky.

That's neither Microsoft nor Anthropic design. It's from their acquisition of Inflection AI. Even Copilot mobile app design is basically what was Inflection's design

I've always wondered where Consumer CoPilot's design language was from.

If you watch the Build keynote with Satya, you'll notice that the design of the slides changed to Serif typography and warmer colors when Mustafa/Microsoft AI segment came on which was completely different from the rest of the keynote. Now it makes sense!

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