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Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India

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Re: Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India

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> But what made this summer's episode unusual was its persistence. But, but—it's not summer in the Nothern Hemisphere yet.

I know people who insist that the seasons start on the first of March/June/September/December. It makes no sense from the perspective of the Earth's orientation toward the sun (astronomical seasons), but apparently "meteorological seasons" are a thing, and people go by them.

It's pouring it down, cloudy, windy and -3.5c deviated from average temperatures here in the UK: very much not summer, I agree!

Re: Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India

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post #102

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Depends on the season. "Everyday" was a poor choice of word, but 35+ wet bulb temperatures happen and are to some extent routine and expected.

Singapore is not mentioned in the wiki article on wet bulb temperature. And given that the maximum ever temperature in Singapore is 35-36 for most months, I doubt that a wet bulb temperature of 35+ is common.

When I visited Singapore most people retreated indoors to the AC from about 2:30-4:30 every afternoon. I don’t recall the exact temps then but the idea that everyone would be just fine in a severe heat wave leading to power grid outages is false.

Re: Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India

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Not all participants are equal. You are conflating participation from equality, yes everyone participates in the system, it takes a lot of privileged to be able to disassociate ones self from the system itself. The power dynamic within the system favors the wealthy, whom have decided that this is the path we are going down.

Writing about "the wealthy" on a site like HN is always interesting. Who do you mean? The vast majority of HN commenters are 10%ers and very many are 1%ers. But there's always someone richer to complain about.

In a global context, pretty much anyone on this site is a 10%er. Most of us are 1%ers.

Re: Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India

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HN loves to nit-pick about what "the wealthy" actually means, but in most contexts, when someone complains "the wealthy" did this or "the wealthy" did that, what they mean are a very, very tiny number of people who are not on HN, not in anyone on HN's family, and not intimately known by anyone on HN. When someone says "the wealthy" are getting rich to everyone's detriment, they are almost never talking about the doct…

Broadly speaking, when anyone says the rich or the wealthy, they mean people richer than themselves. I’ve seen everyone from line workers to multimillionaires do it.

Reminds me of a casual conversation with a 1%, maybe a 0.1%: "we [meaning he and his wife] are not wealthy. All of our friends own a yatch, but we don't".

Re: Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India

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"But global warming is a hoax. And even if it wasn't it's not our fault. People couldn't be the cause. And even if it is our fault there's nothing we could do about it." We have broken our world for the greed of a few. History will not be kind to us.

Humanity is a blip in Earth's history. We'll be a historical curiosity to whatever comes next just like the dinosaurs are to us.

And who knows, maybe the dinosaurs were burping so much they were also starting a global warming.

Re: Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Broadly speaking, when anyone says the rich or the wealthy, they mean people richer than themselves. I’ve seen everyone from line workers to multimillionaires do it.

Reminds me of a casual conversation with a 1%, maybe a 0.1%: "we [meaning he and his wife] are not wealthy. All of our friends own a yatch, but we don't".

Yup. The actual rich have this or that cabin in their private jets–my neighbour just rents his privatet jets, et cetera.

Re: Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India

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> Poor people don't have the luxury of worrying about the heat Just.. damn man > For eight or nine days, temperatures of 47-48C continued without a break Wasn't sure if the night time temps stayed that hot due to some factor but it appears that's the daytime high. > Overnight temperatures remain around 30C.

In India even middle class people can't afford AC. However, Indian government and musk is worried about falling birth rate.

middle class CAN afford AC. What are you talking about?

Re: Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India

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"But global warming is a hoax. And even if it wasn't it's not our fault. People couldn't be the cause. And even if it is our fault there's nothing we could do about it." We have broken our world for the greed of a few. History will not be kind to us.

See I could agree with the first part. But then you add We have broken our world for the greed of a few . After that I sort of understand why so many folks reject the former – they're rejecting the empty moralizing. If you truly believe climate change is real then also admit that "We all have broken the world", except perhaps some uncontacted peoples in the Amazon. Anyone who has ridden in an automobile, a train, a p…

It's moralizing, yes, but far from empty. The rich and powerful companies, near-forced to be amoral by our economic system, and run by the greedy by natural selection, have resources to influence policy, public opinion and information availability that others don't have.

Re: Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India

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"But global warming is a hoax. And even if it wasn't it's not our fault. People couldn't be the cause. And even if it is our fault there's nothing we could do about it." We have broken our world for the greed of a few. History will not be kind to us.

What are you quoting?

It's a summary of what you hear climate change deniers say all the time. Using quotes in this way is fair and common, to indicate that it's not your own opinion.
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