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What Is a Dickover?

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Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by fuzzfactor »

amarant wrote: post #82
michaelt wrote: post #19

I have a theory that about 97% of developers and managers completed the cookie consent (or whatever) on their own product 5 years ago and hence never see it again, and they have no idea how bad the experience for new customers actually is. So the developers and bosses all think they're doing a great job and they've got a carefully curated homepage, even though the regular users get a cloudflare captcha, then a cookie…

>modal I think you mean dickover,sir.

Very accurate terminology for things that are equally as welcome as the developer sending each user a surprise popup pic of their dickover and over again.

Each time they visit the website.

Ad infinitum.

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Post by SlightlyLeftPad »

michaelt wrote: post #19

I have a theory that about 97% of developers and managers completed the cookie consent (or whatever) on their own product 5 years ago and hence never see it again, and they have no idea how bad the experience for new customers actually is. So the developers and bosses all think they're doing a great job and they've got a carefully curated homepage, even though the regular users get a cloudflare captcha, then a cookie…

Developers just aren’t good at determining what works best for the user experience. How would designers and PMs justify the hundreds of thousands of hours of combined industry research poured into that beautiful, performant front page design and following modal auto-load?

Please, leave this to the professionals.

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

michaelt wrote: post #19

I have a theory that about 97% of developers and managers completed the cookie consent (or whatever) on their own product 5 years ago and hence never see it again, and they have no idea how bad the experience for new customers actually is. So the developers and bosses all think they're doing a great job and they've got a carefully curated homepage, even though the regular users get a cloudflare captcha, then a cookie…

> and hence never see it again

This sounds like it would be a better implementation than 99.9% of the dickovers I encounter. Almost always, I dismiss them, then see them again in future. Sometimes with what feels like every site visit.

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Post by lostlogin »

supriyo-biswas wrote: post #115
lostlogin wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t see the article?

It's kinda hilarious that on an article about said "dickovers", the page has one of these consuming 80% of the screen real estate: https://files.catbox.moe/ztjg15.png

I don’t get one. Not sure if that’s a mobile safari or a blocker or what.

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Post by freetime2 »

DonHopkins wrote: post #117
freetime2 wrote: post #7

Thank you, I got a good laugh out of that. My experience was probably exactly as intended. Click on the "What is a dickover?" link trying to come up with things that it might be. And a brief moment after the page loaded (this little pause is crucial) I am hit in the face with a big annoying popup saying "This is a Dickover" followed by immediate understanding. Now at least I know what to call it the next time I visit…

I was afraid it would be a new kind of henway.

I actually had a similar thought - something along the lines of this gag from Spies Like Us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35quNI5ed_k

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Post by junto »

Talking of dark patterns I’ve noticed that many site “accidentally” have the bottom aligned cookie consent banner “break” on mobile Safari, such that the buttons are arranged such that “Accept All” is the only button you can press because the “Deny All” or “Customize” go out of viewport when you go to click on them. This might be related to how mobile Safari changes the bottom bar as you move to click the button. I often have this with the NYT Wordle game. Even though I use pi-hole to block ads, it’s still annoying.

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Post by supriyo-biswas »

lostlogin wrote: post #124
supriyo-biswas wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's kinda hilarious that on an article about said "dickovers", the page has one of these consuming 80% of the screen real estate: https://files.catbox.moe/ztjg15.png

I don’t get one. Not sure if that’s a mobile safari or a blocker or what.

This is on Firefox/Linux, but I’ve also seen it on Chrome/Windows, and Safari/Mac.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by Freak_NL »

econ wrote: post #93
michaelt wrote: post #19

I have a theory that about 97% of developers and managers completed the cookie consent (or whatever) on their own product 5 years ago and hence never see it again, and they have no idea how bad the experience for new customers actually is. So the developers and bosses all think they're doing a great job and they've got a carefully curated homepage, even though the regular users get a cloudflare captcha, then a cookie…

Best ones, when refusing, ask again on the next page. Perhaps they don't know what a functional cookie is? Maybe the marketing vocabulary only has YES?

They do. Those are designed to make you click 'Oh for fuck's sake. Just set the fucking cookies.'

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Post by toxik »

internet2000 wrote: post #21
hootz wrote: post #4

DO YOU CONSENT WITH OUR TRACKING COOKIES POLICY? [YES, I DO, THE IMPORTANT TRACKING ONES] [YES, I DO, ALL OF THEM] ⁿᵒ ᵃⁿᵈ ᶜˡᵒˢᵉ ᵈᶦᶜᵏᵒᵛᵉʳ

Thanks, Europe!

GDPR doesn't mandate cookie banners, it says that you simply cannot store irrelevant PII for the sake of it. That's the point of it: to protect the privacy of the public against "data brokers" and other scum. You're welcome.

People seem to have forgotten, but cookie banners were a pest before GDPR. And newsletters and login popovers, those are GDPR?

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