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Re: EV Stupidity Checklist

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Post by stasomatic »

BeetleB wrote: post #36
Animats wrote: post #2

China has already mandated an end to retractable outside door handles and electrical inside door handles. That takes effect January 1, 2027. There were two major incidents where people could not get out and could not be rescued. The powered charger port door would make sense if there were robot chargers that used it. Tesla demoed that, but people disliked the snake robot approach. Technically, a snake robot is ideal…

> Rear view cameras are better than rear view mirrors. The field of view is better. Rear view cameras are useless when mud/rain get on them. Mirrors continue to work just fine. Try living in Seattle.

Digital rear view cams are a thing too. My car has one now when I drive a car without one I feel handicapped.

Re: EV Stupidity Checklist

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Post by stasomatic »

labcomputer wrote: post #108
jbm wrote: post #27

Please eliminate the glass roof. Why do EV companies keep making this customer hostile decision? On my 2019 Model 3, a stress fracture showed up overnight and everytime I look up I see a 3000$ fix for a car that is worth 10k max. I have no idea who wants it. It is hot in the summer, cold in the winter and you can have a sudden bill related to a rock on the street. Somehow everyone, from Tesla to Ferrari has this insa…

> Why do EV companies keep making this customer hostile decision? Because it eliminates the headliner and insulation, which allows the roof to be an inch shorter while maintaining the same interior headroom. The has a direct impact on frontal area, which, in turn, has a direct impact on aerodynamic drag. Reduced drag means greater range (or the same range with a smaller, less expensive battery).

Did you guys see how Tesla nerfed the least expensive Model Y by keeping the glass roof _and_ covering it from the inside with the headliner so it _looks_ cheaper?

Re: EV Stupidity Checklist

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Post by stasomatic »

BeetleB wrote: post #94
jerlam wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla is an outlier in that the car is designed only with a glass roof. It's not a hole in the existing roof panel like other cars. The lower trim Tesla Y bizarrely has a glass roof that's covered on the inside with a headliner.

> Tesla is an outlier in that the car is designed only with a glass roof. It's not a hole in the existing roof panel like other cars. Lots of cars have followed Tesla's lead: Ioniq 5, Mach E, etc. I'm claiming that Tesla is an outlier in that they're not giving a choice . With the Ioniq 5 and Mach E, you can choose whether you want the glass roof or not.

You can't in the Ioniq 5 (US). You have to give up many useful features if you do not want the roof because the roof is part of the Limited trim. Luckily, I like the roof.

Re: EV Stupidity Checklist

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Post by stasomatic »

jbm wrote: post #42
BeetleB wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Tesla the only one that made it mandatory? Hyundai, Ford, etc have it as an option.

I see this on all sorts of non tesla cars and it makes no sense. I saw it even on brands like Fisker (although that was a solar panel that apparently didn't work). Just a nice metal roof that won't make me expend more electricity for nothing would be nice.

My 2008 Audi A3 had it and I loved it. First, the roof was black so it breaks down the shape (mine was white/black). Second, it makes the car feel more airy. Yes, it got hot when parked, to each beholder his own.

Re: EV Stupidity Checklist

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Post by kcplate »

jbm wrote: post #27

Please eliminate the glass roof. Why do EV companies keep making this customer hostile decision? On my 2019 Model 3, a stress fracture showed up overnight and everytime I look up I see a 3000$ fix for a car that is worth 10k max. I have no idea who wants it. It is hot in the summer, cold in the winter and you can have a sudden bill related to a rock on the street. Somehow everyone, from Tesla to Ferrari has this insa…

You are in charge of this. Just don’t buy a vehicle with one.

Re: EV Stupidity Checklist

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Post by BeetleB »

plqbfbv wrote: post #117
BeetleB wrote: post #43

I've been meaning to write a post entitled: Things you could do with cars that you can no longer do. The top of the list is "Maintain a constant (vent) fan speed". With all the EVs I've tested, if I want to get warm air on my face at a consistent speed ... it's just not possible. "Auto" is disabled, I've set the fan at a certain speed, and set it to blow only in the top vents. Dial up the temperature, and the fan spe…

You can definitely do it with a Tesla. Disable Auto, select the airflow direction and vents, select the fan speed you want (1-10), select the temp you want. Fan speed will not change with temp if manually selected.

I haven't tried it in a Tesla - will try it the next time I'm in one.

The key is to set the temperature to something much higher than the ambient. If you're already in a warm place, the experiment won't work. I've had multiple EV owners claim as you, and then demoed it to them on a cold day.

Re: EV Stupidity Checklist

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Post by BeetleB »

stasomatic wrote: post #121
BeetleB wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rear view cameras are better than rear view mirrors. The field of view is better. Rear view cameras are useless when mud/rain get on them. Mirrors continue to work just fine. Try living in Seattle.

Digital rear view cams are a thing too. My car has one now when I drive a car without one I feel handicapped.

Weird comment. This whole thread is about them. Of course I know it's a thing. My question is how do you look in the rear when mud is on the camera? Or lots of water droplets?

Re: EV Stupidity Checklist

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Post by stasomatic »

BeetleB wrote: post #128
stasomatic wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Digital rear view cams are a thing too. My car has one now when I drive a car without one I feel handicapped.

Weird comment. This whole thread is about them. Of course I know it's a thing. My question is how do you look in the rear when mud is on the camera? Or lots of water droplets?

I don’t understand what you are asking. I drive in very rainy Miami and I haven’t had an issue, but not much mud here. I do have a rear wiper and the mirror can be switched to analog.

Re: EV Stupidity Checklist

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Post by kikimora »

While being widely criticized I don’t get it > Physical controls for temperature and fan speed.

I have set temperature to 21 C in Tesla when I bought it and never changed since. Why would anyone frequently change a thermostat set temperature?

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